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Is this guy better than Eddie Van Halen?
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friendoken



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 5:26 pm    Post subject: Is this guy better than Eddie Van Halen? Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2BOApUvFpw&feature=related

I don't think so. Money talks and bullshit walks. Special mention to Jimmy Page and Ritchie Blackmore, but Eddie was a trendsetter in a room full of trendsetters.
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uberscheisse



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

best, schmest. there is no best guitar player.
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5600



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree, the best geetar player is from what ever your favorite style of music is. If you like rock then you would lean towards EVH or Randy Rhodes. If you like blues then SRV or Muddy Waters. you get the idea. I like punk rock so I would probally say Johnny Ramone. Dez from Black Flag was pretty good as well as than guy from the Replacements. Bob Stinson? He died.
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Stevie_B



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This guy's the best: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=q9vNSA0WNlw

Makes Eddie Van Halen look like some ham-fisted teenager.
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robot



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've seen this vid before.

The guy's got decent rhythm, and is pretty talented overall, but this clip is certainly not deserving of the title "impossible guitar" -- I've seen many street buskers who can effect this style equally well.

Nor should it be called "Eddie van Halen for eggheads" -- the time signatures aren't really that odd at all.

I'm no huge Van Halen fan, but Eddie's got more talent in his baby finger.
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Toon Army



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I`m a fan of Cesar Huesca.....certainly can hold his own u there with the best. Even Steve Vai has him down as a favorite of his on his own official page.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Ako2b_3hfjU
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=7xjcsJgBmwc&feature=related
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=iWgbMY-s_2g&feature=related
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=v4HFjFy_eyw&feature=related


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uberscheisse



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what makes a guitar player good is how his playing makes you feel.

some dipshit speeding around the block to impress chicks has nothing on someone who can play one note in such a way that it makes you want to fight, *beep* or cry.

(that said, i didn't watch the videos with sound, i'm at work - it's just the insinuation that there are degrees of bestness with something as subjective as music makes me want to burn down houses.)
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Stevie_B



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

robot wrote:
I've seen this vid before.

The guy's got decent rhythm, and is pretty talented overall, but this clip is certainly not deserving of the title "impossible guitar" -- I've seen many street buskers who can effect this style equally well.

Nor should it be called "Eddie van Halen for eggheads" -- the time signatures aren't really that odd at all.

I'm no huge Van Halen fan, but Eddie's got more talent in his baby finger.


I've seen buskers tearing it up in similar fashion also.

Here, Robot - have you got the album 'Drums of Passion' by Babatunde Olatunji? It's right up your street in terms of polyrhythms and unusual timings and I know you're rubbing yourself over such things at the moment. It's from the '50s, but the 'beatz' is still 'fresh'. Get it on the d-low, like.
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uberscheisse



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

eddie van halen shreds

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=pdFJTbaFcZ0

slash shreds
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=NHyl04-ytH8

eric clapton shreds
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=x_M9zWORBuA

metallica shreds
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=JgvllW3UfJ8&feature=related
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Cheonmunka



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

*beep*, that Avatar is quite frightening, 5600. What's that during the latest protests? How did the guy fare, and what set it the cop off?
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Oreovictim



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

uberscheisse wrote:
eddie van halen shreds

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=pdFJTbaFcZ0

slash shreds
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=NHyl04-ytH8

eric clapton shreds
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=x_M9zWORBuA

metallica shreds
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=JgvllW3UfJ8&feature=related


Thanks! I saw the Eric Clapton one on Ebaums World once. I didn't know that there were more.
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friendoken



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

uberscheisse wrote:
what makes a guitar player good is how his playing makes you feel.

some dipshit speeding around the block to impress chicks has nothing on someone who can play one note in such a way that it makes you want to fight, *beep* or cry.

(that said, i didn't watch the videos with sound, i'm at work - it's just the insinuation that there are degrees of bestness with something as subjective as music makes me want to burn down houses.)


In my OP I referred to talent as one thing and trendsetting another. Obviously there are some musicians who are more talented than others. But, what sets apart the truly talented from the merely talented is their abilities to change the face of music. I am certain there are legions of 16 year olds who can play circles around any number of well known musicians, but what effect have they had on the world of music. That is not a subjective argument, it is an objective argument, and EVH has had a truly profound effect on an entire generation of players. That fact, simply cannot be denied.
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Rob'sdad



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clapton has an awesome aucoustic "Classical Gas" but JIMMY PAGE rules.
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friendoken



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rob'sdad wrote:
Clapton has an awesome aucoustic "Classical Gas" but JIMMY PAGE rules.


Another awesome trendsetter
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

al di meola. maybe not the best but exceedingly good and fast. and better than many of these guys who are supposed to be the best.
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