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xCustomx

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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:23 pm Post subject: Difference b/w 'on Earth' and 'the Earth'? |
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| My co-teacher asked me what the difference is between 'on Earth' and 'the Earth.' Can anyone offer a simple answer? I can't find an easy way to explain it to her |
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Whistleblower

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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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On Earth, there are many countries and one defies logic.
The Earth is populated by too many Koreans. |
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xCustomx

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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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That still doesn't explain the difference in usage. I'm editing the final version of a school newspaper I've put together and she went through it to find mistakes.
"Global warming affects all the creatures which live on Earth."
"Global warming affects all the creatures which live on the Earth."
I told her that both are OK, but she wants to know why. |
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globalgirlk
Joined: 18 Jun 2008 Location: Livingston, La
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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The Earth-is specific, refering to the planet itself.
On Earth- could be suggesting location.
Ie: The Earth is a planet in the solar system
Where on Earth is Nagaland?
*Nagaland, I think, is loacted somewhere in India(ish?); of course I could be totally wrong on that. |
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xCustomx

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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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Oh, and how can I convince her that we don't use the word "trashes" as a noun.
"We should reduce the amount of trashes." - I keep telling her that using 'trash' would be more appropriate |
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Whistleblower

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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Trash is uncountable and thus you can't add 'es' to the end. Simple. |
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xCustomx

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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Whistleblower wrote: |
| Trash is uncountable and thus you can't add 'es' to the end. Simple. |
I know, but trashes is in the Mirriam Webster Dictionary so she thinks it's a word |
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I_Am_The_Kiwi

Joined: 10 Jun 2008
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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| sure shes not reading trashes as in destroys....? cos trash is uncountable. |
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globalgirlk
Joined: 18 Jun 2008 Location: Livingston, La
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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| I think she has her nouns,adjectives, and her verbs mixed. |
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maeil
Joined: 09 Jan 2006 Location: Haebangchon
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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I've always wondered about "Earth" vs. "the Earth" myself... we don't say "the Saturn" or "the Venus." I searched through NASA's style guide ( http://history.nasa.gov/styleguide.html ) for any mention of this but found none... in fact in one sentence regarding to Astronomical Bodies, they refer to Earth without 'the' in one place and with 'the' just after!
I have a feeling that it just comes down to style. I think most people are more familiarized with hearing "the Earth."
Trying to google this comes up with a lot of interesting pages about fantasy worlds and such.  |
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yawarakaijin
Joined: 08 Aug 2006
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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Perhaps it is the small difference in context?
The "planet" Earth vs Earth being used as the proper name for our planet?
1.)The planet earth revolves around that sun. The Earth revolves around the sun.
2.) Earth revolves around the sun.
Obviously we would say number 1.
1.) I live in China. I live on Earth
2.) I live on the Earth
Little bit more of a grey area but I would go with 1. |
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talika
Joined: 30 May 2008
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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| xCustomx wrote: |
That still doesn't explain the difference in usage. I'm editing the final version of a school newspaper I've put together and she went through it to find mistakes.
"Global warming affects all the creatures which live on Earth."
"Global warming affects all the creatures which live on the Earth."
I told her that both are OK, but she wants to know why. |
I can't help thinking that the first one sounds more appropriate. Just because there is only one earth. If I'm wrong I would like to know why too. Maybe because 'earth' in this case is an object? Whereas in the other example given, "the (planet) earth revolves around the sun" makes sense because the 'earth' is the subject, and planet is specified as the earth.
I'm trying to think of another example where there is only one of something, ie, a country. "Maple syrup is abundant in Canada" vs. "Maple syrup is abundant in the Canada" (I don't know if this is true, I just made it up) -- obviously, the first example sounds more appropriate.
But we wouldn't say "The Canada...", although we would say "The Canadians" and I can only explain this as there being only one Canada, and there being more than one Canadians.
The use of 'the earth' truly boggles my mind. And I can only explain it as depending the context of where 'earth' is used, as either a subject or an object. So, if 'earth' is used as a subject, 'the earth...' would be okay; if it's used as an object '.. on earth' would be okay.
I'm more or less trying to explain this to myself as well. I would like to know the real answer too. haha |
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Privateer
Joined: 31 Aug 2005 Location: Easy Street.
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 2:14 am Post subject: |
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Both 'Earth' and 'the Earth' are acceptable. As a planet name, 'Earth' may be used without an article; but as part of a class of certain very familiar parts of the environment (e.g. 'the Sun', 'the sea', 'the sky', 'the mountains', 'the stars', 'the moon' etc) it is also commonly used with the definite article.
We also use the definite article with familiar parts of the domestic environment: 'the door', 'the phone', 'the TV', 'the bathroom', etc. |
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