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Why are we competing against each other on Daves?
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sojourner1



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug

PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:48 pm    Post subject: Why are we competing against each other on Daves? Reply with quote

I'm sure this will get those guilty ones attention first.

Why is there all this competition to prove who is a fluent native speaker and who is not a fluent native speaker? I'm not saying all of you are, but some are. In fact, the majority are professional or at leasty those who are trying to speakuh with tact-uh, honestee, and humilitee to share-uh the knowledgee, ideas-uhs, and facts of livin and teachuhing in Corea.

This is an informal messenging discussion board; not a dissertation, resume, or textbook we're writing as we're not jounalists or editors. OK, some of you are professional writers and are writing instead of teaching, but I'm talking the majority of us on here. This site serves as an information exchange, a lonely ESL teachers ranting board, and a whole lot more. Let's try to get along. If you don't like something click the back button rather than flaming unless you got something honest and objective to say in a tactful manner while you hide behind a online identity in the comfort of your private office. While anyone can be reading anything we put on this site and it's a small world after all, you should never get on here and discuss things too sensitive such as degrading your boss who is probably reading this site or offend someone who might be in the same town or even school as you! Dohh! Rolling Eyes

Why do some posters get on here and attempt to degrade or offend other members like it's a competition of the brightest college graduates? They feel an insecurity with something a poster wrote or simpy feel insecure about their own English ability or feel insecure that they didn't get the job they wanted out of college. I'll admit, I'd rather be an international business agent, I dont' know everything about pedigogy, or have a professional level of competence in being an English teacher due to lacking education and experience in the subject. Being that we are so thinly spread far apart in such a small Asian country, why are we divided and pitting against each other? Maybe some of you in Seoul are too close in too high numbers so it's nothing to tell 10 waygoogins a day that you don't like them or offend them in another way not that I'm like that anyhow.

Of course, not all of us do this as many of us are intelligible and do make efforts to be sincere, friendly, and honest in exchanging helpful information and ideas on teaching and living in Korea. So the next time you find yourself degrading another poster or his/her English, think twice, it could be your neighbor or co-teacher and we should be more collegial and supportive as all of us teaching in Korea are doing something highly experimental far from home. While many professional decent members leave in droves, the illegitimates incompetent ones are saying to not let the door hit them too hard in thier rear ends.


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mikeyboy122



Joined: 28 Feb 2008
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For a goof. Chill.
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Justin Kimberlake



Joined: 20 May 2008

PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need to start a blog. I don't read your posts as they are too long for a message board. Perhaps I would read it on a blog.

You must have a sweet job to be able to write 1 post, let alone 4 or 5 today of almost equal length.
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shifty



Joined: 21 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I basically agree with the OP. Lots of posturing and aggression in a group that should be pulling together. Too much bristling for a line of work that
has no pretensions.

In the sixties a newspaper that printed only good news was attempted. Noone wanted to read it and it quickly failed. I think that may be a clue as to why we have this phenomenon, just a human failing of ours.
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aarontendo



Joined: 08 Feb 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cause 90% of us are internet assholes. I'm one of em.
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sojourner1



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Justin Kimberlake wrote:
You need to start a blog. I don't read your posts as they are too long for a message board. Perhaps I would read it on a blog.

You must have a sweet job to be able to write 1 post, let alone 4 or 5 today of almost equal length.


Well, I've taken the first 6 months of this year off and then I've been writing at night. Maybe I need to look into blogging and then just KISS, keep it simply and short, while on Daves.
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toiletgod2000



Joined: 18 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree completely with the OP. I've read this board occasionally for years, but only recently have I felt bored enough to jump into the fray. I especially hate it when people complain about others' incorrect word usage or spelling. A lot of us teach children and have to talk to them like we talk to three-year-old children in our home countries. When the most complicated sentence you write all day is "I like spring because of the flowers," you're probably going to make a few mistakes when expressing complex thoughts. Overall, if you can wade through the mistakes and understand the intended meaning, why not keep quiet?
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

aarontendo wrote:
Cause 90% of us are internet assholes. I'm one of em.


I've always thought your insightful, not at all an arse.
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Underwaterbob



Joined: 08 Jan 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bibbitybop wrote:
aarontendo wrote:
Cause 90% of us are internet assholes. I'm one of em.


I've always thought your insightful, not at all an arse.


That should be "you're".



Sorry, I had to.
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Stormy



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Location: Here & there

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 1:16 am    Post subject: Re: Why are we competing against each other on Daves? Reply with quote

sojourner1 wrote:

Of course, not all of us do this as many of us are intelligible and do make efforts to be sincere, friendly, and honest in exchanging helpful information and ideas on teaching and living in Korea.


So why not just concentrate on them & ignore the losers like the rest of us do instead of writing your own dissertation on the subject? All it does is to make you look like a bit of a pompous ass.
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red_devil



Joined: 30 Jun 2008
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

aarontendo wrote:
Cause 90% of us are internet assholes. I'm one of em.


That's a bit low, IMO. Something like 99.95% maybe. Twisted Evil
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captain kirk



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:47 am    Post subject: Re: Why are we competing against each other on Daves? Reply with quote

sojourner1 wrote:
You should never get on here and discuss things too sensitive such as degrading your boss who is probably reading this site or offend someone who might be in the same town or even school as you! Dohh! Rolling Eyes



You'll be venting on here soon enough I'll wager. You're already producing massive clumps way ahead, in texture and volume, of the average 'got something to say' BM here.

Sometimes venting on Dave's and talking to oneself are like a double scoop at Baskin Robbins. Bullshit butterscotch and Bilious blueberry. It's a 'teaching Eng in Kor' tradition.
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Suwon23



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bibbitybop wrote:
aarontendo wrote:
Cause 90% of us are internet assholes. I'm one of em.


I've always thought your insightful, not at all an arse.


BURN!!
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sojourner1



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:47 am    Post subject: Re: Why are we competing against each other on Daves? Reply with quote

captain kirk wrote:
sojourner1 wrote:
You should never get on here and discuss things too sensitive such as degrading your boss who is probably reading this site or offend someone who might be in the same town or even school as you! Dohh! Rolling Eyes



You'll be venting on here soon enough I'll wager. You're already producing massive clumps way ahead, in texture and volume, of the average 'got something to say' BM here.

Sometimes venting on Dave's and talking to oneself are like a double scoop at Baskin Robbins. Bullshit butterscotch and Bilious blueberry. It's a 'teaching Eng in Kor' tradition.


Wow, that's so true. I'm sure of it.
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mountainous



Joined: 04 Sep 2007
Location: Los Angeles

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:55 am    Post subject: Re: Why are we competing against each other on Daves? Reply with quote

sojourner1 wrote:
I'm sure this will get those guilty ones attention first.

Why is there all this competition to prove who is a fluent native speaker and who is not a fluent native speaker? I'm not saying all of you are, but some are. In fact, the majority are professional or at leasty those who are trying to speakuh with tact-uh, honestee, and humilitee to share-uh the knowledgee, ideas-uhs, and facts of livin and teachuhing in Corea.

This is an informal messenging discussion board; not a dissertation, resume, or textbook we're writing as we're not jounalists or editors. OK, some of you are professional writers and are writing instead of teaching, but I'm talking the majority of us on here. This site serves as an information exchange, a lonely ESL teachers ranting board, and a whole lot more. Let's try to get along. If you don't like something click the back button rather than flaming unless you got something honest and objective to say in a tactful manner while you hide behind a online identity in the comfort of your private office. While anyone can be reading anything we put on this site and it's a small world after all, you should never get on here and discuss things too sensitive such as degrading your boss who is probably reading this site or offend someone who might be in the same town or even school as you! Dohh! Rolling Eyes

Why do some posters get on here and attempt to degrade or offend other members like it's a competition of the brightest college graduates? They feel an insecurity with something a poster wrote or simpy feel insecure about their own English ability or feel insecure that they didn't get the job they wanted out of college. I'll admit, I'd rather be an international business agent, I dont' know everything about pedigogy, or have a professional level of competence in being an English teacher due to lacking education and experience in the subject. Being that we are so thinly spread far apart in such a small Asian country, why are we divided and pitting against each other? Maybe some of you in Seoul are too close in too high numbers so it's nothing to tell 10 waygoogins a day that you don't like them or offend them in another way not that I'm like that anyhow.

Of course, not all of us do this as many of us are intelligible and do make efforts to be sincere, friendly, and honest in exchanging helpful information and ideas on teaching and living in Korea. So the next time you find yourself degrading another poster or his/her English, think twice, it could be your neighbor or co-teacher and we should be more collegial and supportive as all of us teaching in Korea are doing something highly experimental far from home. While many professional decent members leave in droves, the illegitimates incompetent ones are saying to not let the door hit them too hard in thier rear ends.


sojourner, lots of what u are saying is true and amusing, I mean we can laugh at ourselves hopefully. Laughing Are u female? just curious
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