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tanklor1



Joined: 13 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 7:11 am    Post subject: Tiny Towns Reply with quote

Maybe I'm an odd duck, hell I know that I am, but I think that I'd like to try a Tiny Town for a year. Cut myself off from the magority of the expact community and have a go at it. Anyone either lived in or is living in a small town now? Is it as laid back as I think it is? Or am I just romanizing the whole notion.
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livinseoul



Joined: 28 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When in Rome
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Bigfeet



Joined: 29 May 2008
Location: Grrrrr.....

PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

livinseoul wrote:
When in Rome


Romanize?
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sojourner1



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug

PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, it's more laid back, friendlier, and more simpler, but the hard part is the lack of English so you won't be able to hold important conversations very well with your co-teachers and administration so it can be confusing. Your co-teachers will be the local Koreans who will have at least some English and the most English of anyone in town not including other foreigners. It does take a lot of mental energy and effort out of you to live and work where communication is very difficult, but it's much healthier living in a tiny town.
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tanklor1



Joined: 13 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sojourner1 wrote:
Yes, it's more laid back, friendlier, and more simpler, but the hard part is the lack of English so you won't be able to hold important conversations very well with your co-teachers and administration so it can be confusing. Your co-teachers will be the local Koreans who will have at least some English and the most English of anyone in town not including other foreigners. It does take a lot of mental energy and effort out of you to live and work where communication is very difficult, but it's much healthier living in a tiny town.


If I do decide to go this route for my next job are there any signs that I should look for to indicate that the job is in a small town?
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red_devil



Joined: 30 Jun 2008
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The advantage is that you learn Korean much faster. Local celeb status too? Razz
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The key factor is the type of school you work at. If you are in a high school, make sure to ask what kind. If it is a technical high school, the motivation level is going to be very low since the students know they aren't going on to college and will never need English. The good students will have been sent away to a city school. The kids left are poorer than city kids and their families show the effects of poverty the same as anywhere else.

It's an interesting experience. I don't regret my time at two tiny town high schools.
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sojourner1



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tanklor1 wrote:
sojourner1 wrote:
Yes, it's more laid back, friendlier, and more simpler, but the hard part is the lack of English so you won't be able to hold important conversations very well with your co-teachers and administration so it can be confusing. Your co-teachers will be the local Koreans who will have at least some English and the most English of anyone in town not including other foreigners. It does take a lot of mental energy and effort out of you to live and work where communication is very difficult, but it's much healthier living in a tiny town.


If I do decide to go this route for my next job are there any signs that I should look for to indicate that the job is in a small town?


Yes, a Gangwon-do EPIK contract will almost always be small town with few other foreigners. Also, ask the recruiter who will pass it on the the POE head coordinator in Chuncheon in charge of Gangwondo EPIK. You will most likely get what you want if you're wanting to be in a small town and that I did. I knew the communication and planning challenges will take more energy than the teaching as it does take a great deal of physic energy, especially in the beginning of getting things set up and developing the relationships. It's only Thursday and feels like it should be Friday. I'm just glad I get to rest on Saturday as my new Korean friends in the program don't get to on 2 to 3 Saturdays a month. No worries, they know your special being their only native English teacher and it's in your contract to not be asked to do so.
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Draz



Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 7:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Tiny Towns Reply with quote

tanklor1 wrote:
Maybe I'm an odd duck, hell I know that I am, but I think that I'd like to try a Tiny Town for a year. Cut myself off from the magority of the expact community and have a go at it. Anyone either lived in or is living in a small town now? Is it as laid back as I think it is? Or am I just romanizing the whole notion.


I couldn't do it. I was originally in a tiny town close (sort of) to the school and I had them move me to a bigger town farther from the school.

It is not laid back, not at all. People are constantly yelling at you and talking to you. I found it stressful, but it was my first week in Korea. Shocked
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Hank the Iconoclast



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 8:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Tiny Towns Reply with quote

Draz wrote:
tanklor1 wrote:
Maybe I'm an odd duck, hell I know that I am, but I think that I'd like to try a Tiny Town for a year. Cut myself off from the magority of the expact community and have a go at it. Anyone either lived in or is living in a small town now? Is it as laid back as I think it is? Or am I just romanizing the whole notion.


I couldn't do it. I was originally in a tiny town close (sort of) to the school and I had them move me to a bigger town farther from the school.

It is not laid back, not at all. People are constantly yelling at you and talking to you. I found it stressful, but it was my first week in Korea. Shocked


Yeah, some people think that small town Korea can be relaxing. I find that sometimes it can be quite the opposite. You are always a bit of a spectacle when you walk around town, especially since I am living with my Korean fiance.

Just this past weekend, I had high schoolers sreaming at me. Luckily, one of them is at the high school next to my middle school and the principal took care of the brat because of his actions.

I always feel more relaxed (at least when it comes to walking around town) in Daejeon and Seoul. That's because I don't sick out like a sore thumb there and people don't care about my business or personal matters.
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air76



Joined: 13 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that you need to define your parameters of what a "tiny" town is before you can get a realistic picture of what life would be like there.

We live in a town of maybe 50,000 (it's officially 100 and something but divided into a new and old town by 8km) and it's absolutely fabulous here. There are plenty of foreigners in town so there is a group of at least 10-15 of us that socialize and whatnot. The countryside and mountains around here are beautiful. There is no traffic. But the city is still big enough that we've got everything we need (although the money from the factory here helps to bring in things like HomePlus). I would recommend living here absolutely 150% over living in Seoul. Buy a motorcycle and get out and see the countryside before you even go to work.....that being said anywhere smaller than here might be too small. So if 50,000-100,000 people is what you'd call "tiny" then I think you'd like it....if 10,000-15,000 is more what you're talking about then I think that you might actually go clinically insane. Another option would be somewhere like Mokpo or Suncheon, that are small enough to be closer to the countryside and to not have an enormous expat community but still a legitimate city.
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Phant0m



Joined: 15 May 2008
Location: in your mind~

PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard that Yangpyeong, which is where I'll be heading to in about a week, is "tiny". Is that true? How small is it? How many foreign teachers are there?
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mysterious700



Joined: 10 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go to the Jeolla's, young man. Jeollabuk do outside of Jeonju or Iksan is pretty much country. As much as Kangwan-do. having a girlfriend though not impossible is tough. so if you don't mind that. it could be ok. public schools use to be more slack. they would give you extra days off (especially during exams) and you could leave early every day. but now they seem to be getting almost as strict as a city school. but my korean is prob better than 80 % foriegners (though i still have a long way to go.) people don't stare much now. are use to seeing me.
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)

PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 8:18 am    Post subject: Re: Tiny Towns Reply with quote

tanklor1 wrote:
Anyone either lived in or is living in a small town now?

My first job was in a town of about 3000 people. Boring like you wouldn't believe. We had one 노래방 and 2 video stores. That was the extent of what passed for entertainment in town. Most people drove out to 춘천 (about 20 by car/bus) for anything interesting to do.
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Tobias



Joined: 02 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 5:34 pm    Post subject: Don't forget this Reply with quote

Don't forget the privacy issue. If you get a job in a small town, everyone will always know your business. If you hang your boxers out to dry in the sun, it'll be the talk of the town for days and maybe weeks. You'll be known not as 'teacher' but by your actions away from work. Some from the west are uncomfortable with this.

Are you going to be writing a novel while living in this small town? I assume you'll have internet service. If not, I'd start writing.
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