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E-1's need permission for camps?

 
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Rumple



Joined: 19 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:43 pm    Post subject: E-1's need permission for camps? Reply with quote

Do E-1's need to get permission from their university to take a camp job (not affiliated with their university) during their vacation time?

This will be my first time on an E-1, so I don't really know how the visas are different, except for the initial documentation requirements being different.
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OiGirl



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Hoke-y-gun

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, you need to apply to immigration for an additional workplace to be added to your ARC. This will also require the permission of your employer.
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toong tao daeng



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:22 am    Post subject: Re: E-1's need permission for camps? Reply with quote

Rumple wrote:

This will be my first time on an E-1, so I don't really know how the visas are different, except for the initial documentation requirements being different.

How is the initial documentation different?
I apologize for going off topic, but I did a search and came up with nothing.
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Young FRANKenstein



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was under the impression E1s were not allowed by law to do camps at all.
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OiGirl



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Young FRANKenstein wrote:
I was under the impression E1s were not allowed by law to do camps at all.

You may be right, but I was more under the impression that universities were unlikely to give permission.
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Rumple



Joined: 19 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:07 pm    Post subject: Re: E-1's need permission for camps? Reply with quote

toong tao daeng wrote:
Rumple wrote:

This will be my first time on an E-1, so I don't really know how the visas are different, except for the initial documentation requirements being different.

How is the initial documentation different?
I apologize for going off topic, but I did a search and came up with nothing.


It's okay. E-1's don't require a criminal background check or a medical check.
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OiGirl



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Were you able to get the permission?
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Rumple



Joined: 19 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OiGirl wrote:
Were you able to get the permission?


I was asking for future planning purposes, so I won't actually be trying for quite some time.
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Pyongshin Sangja



Joined: 20 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

E1's are not conversational instructors, they are "content" teachers.

Camp (C-4) visas are "conversational," so E-1's can't have them.

Don't you dare try to teach conversation, nasty little content teacher.

I was given a C-4 on my E-1 in 2005 when I did a winter camp with my boss's permission at XXX University (although they lied to Immi. about the number of days I worked for them) but I hear they are hard (impossible?) to get these days.

Ridiculous? Check. Self-contradictory? Check. Inconsistently applied? Check. Easily corrupted? Check.

Must be Korea.
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Rumple



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pyongshin Sangja wrote:
E1's are not conversational instructors, they are "content" teachers.

Camp (C-4) visas are "conversational," so E-1's can't have them.


Yeah, but an E-1 could teach a camp if he files for change of workplace with kimmi, with his uni's permission.
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Pyongshin Sangja



Joined: 20 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've heard differently. I applied for a camp at a university outside Seoul (Daegu? I can't recall.) last year and was rejected BECAUSE I had an E-1 and they had, supposedly, had trouble getting temporary visas added to E-1's in the past. It's not a change of workplace, it's permission for a secondary workplace and E-1's can't get permission to do an E-2's job (teaching conversation) even if their employer gives permission. The "final" word, of course, lies with the Immi. officer you talk to on whichever day you go to Immi. If you don't like their opinion, get back in line and get a different answer from someone else. Ah, Korea!
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Ut videam



Joined: 07 Dec 2007
Location: Pocheon-si, Gyeonggi-do

PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For an E-2, getting permission to work at a camp is a "change/addition of working place" under Immigration regulations.

Pyongshin Sanja is correct in that teaching at a camp, as E-2 (conversation) work, falls outside the scope of an E-1 visa.

Theoretically it would be possible for an E-1 to apply to teach at a camp, but he would have to apply for "Permission for participation in activities uncertified for current sojourn status." Based on the immigration guide page for that application (http://www.hikorea.go.kr/pt/InfoDetailR_en.pt?categoryId=2&parentId=393&catSeq=436&showMenuId=376&visaId=E1), E-1s can only be granted permission for E-3 and D-6 activities.

But, you can always apply. All they can do is say no. Remember though, it's not just an additional workplace.
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Pyongshin Sangja



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, did you go to Immigration?
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Rumple



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pyongshin Sangja wrote:
So, did you go to Immigration?


I'll be doing that next week. Will post an update as soon as I have some information.
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idiotinkorea



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have an E-1. basically, that means i am god.
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