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Are you a Dancing Monkey? |
Hell no I'm a real teacher |
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Only when my co-teacher demands it |
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Sure man Dance Monkey Dance |
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I'm more of a game show host |
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No I'm a slave to the textbook. My class is boooring. |
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Fishead soup
Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Location: Korea
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 10:40 pm Post subject: Are you a Dancing Monkey? |
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Dancing Monkey is a term that implies that you edutain your students. |
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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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No dancing or monkeying but I am a bit of a game-show host at times. There are some things, like waving like a retard and yelling 'Hi!', that just aren't in my nature.
The other day at an English expo I saw a foreigner who fit the very definition of dancing monkey, singing and dancing with a group of little kids as part of some hagwon's promotion (I think). I sure hope she really enjoys that kind of thing and was getting paid very well. If she doesn't and isn't her job would be the very definition of TEFL hell. |
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it's full of stars

Joined: 26 Dec 2007
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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I'd like to be a real teacher but I ate some American beef and contracted BSE, so I am a dancing downer monkey.
My classes are education free. |
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cruisemonkey

Joined: 04 Jul 2005 Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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No, I'm a crusin' monkey! (and a real teacher/game show host). |
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KYC
Joined: 11 May 2006
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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Nothing wrong with being both. I teach elementary so when the kids are good, I reward them with games. If they are not, they know they will have month long of worksheets & speaking activities.
One of hte positive thing about not having a Korean teacher with you I guess. I control the activities. |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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Unfortunately I have to say that most of the time I am a dancing monkey.
The odd times that my co-teachers relax their vice-like grip and allow me to run the class are far too few and far to far between.
I was talking to a collegue yesterday who works in a smaller country school. He gets to teach alone mostly and is free to do whatever he wants. Hmmm.
I guess going small may be the answer I'm looking for. |
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Easter Clark

Joined: 18 Nov 2007 Location: Hiding from Yie Eun-woong
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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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When I first arrived last year my co-teachers wanted me to be "funny." I told them that if the kids wanted to be entertained then they could go to a human zoo (or "English Village"). My job is to impart some knowledge / awareness of English conversation, as well as try to give the students a good impression of foreigners.
If you "dance like a monkey" then you're teaching your kids that foreigners are here for their amusement. If you want to be taken seriously then you should try more teaching and less entertaining. |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you for the lesson on how to be taken seriously.
I agree with what you say, but unfortunately my co-teachers do not.
I am allowed to teach what and how they tell me and little more.
The few times I have tried to push the envelope and do more of what I think should be done, they cut me off mid-sentence, interrupt by loudly disciplining students or simply tell me that what I'm doing is not part of the lesson.
You're condescending attitude is duly noted though. |
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Draz

Joined: 27 Jun 2007 Location: Land of Morning Clam
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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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Easter Clark wrote: |
If you "dance like a monkey" then you're teaching your kids that foreigners are here for their amusement. |
....we're not?  |
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branchsnapper
Joined: 21 Feb 2008
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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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While I basically admire Easter Clark's attitude, I suspect at least some people in his school would rather have a dancing monkey. On the other thread he said he punished students (how, I wonder?) even when the co-teachers are there - I think you take quite a risk with them taking offence at that.
Anyway, Koreans don't like to be contradicted when they tell you what they want, that's for sure. |
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garykasparov
Joined: 27 May 2007
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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:38 pm Post subject: Re: Are you a Dancing Monkey? |
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Fishead soup wrote: |
Dancing Monkey is a term that implies that you edutain your students. |
"Dancing monkey" was started by the owners of SLP. If a white teacher didn't conform to a Korean master at SLP, the Korean master would beat the teacher. During the beatings, they would say, "Dance white monkey, dance!." |
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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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branchsnapper wrote: |
While I basically admire Easter Clark's attitude, I suspect at least some people in his school would rather have a dancing monkey. On the other thread he said he punished students (how, I wonder?) even when the co-teachers are there - I think you take quite a risk with them taking offence at that.
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I don't think that's always the case. If the CT is younger than you it's totally within your right and it's not their place to complain. Even with one CT I have who's ten years older than me we sort of share that role and I think we both generally like not always having to be the enforcer. Even where we may not be so concerned about the same things (I don't share her concern about students with large hair accessories or nail polish and she's sometimes less concerned that me about students having their textbooks and paying attention) we always back each other up. In the case of another who often comes and goes it's important for the kids to know that the same standards apply whether he's there or not, and the proof of this is that their behaviour doesn't change when they hear the door rolling open and shutting. |
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spliff

Joined: 19 Jan 2004 Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand
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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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Not a "dancing monkey", but rather, a stepping razor. 
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Easter Clark

Joined: 18 Nov 2007 Location: Hiding from Yie Eun-woong
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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry if I came across as condescending. That certainly wasn't my intent! I may be criticized for taking my job seriously, but I guess that's the price one pays for trying to be a professional and not just a foreigner on display.
If "edutainment" works for you and your students, then who am I to say don't do it? For me, being an authority figure is more important than being an entertainer. And I feel like my classroom is a good environment to learn in, especially considering the background of my students.
And my co-teachers would probably be more offended if I didn't take any role at all in discipline.
If it walks like a duck... |
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garykasparov
Joined: 27 May 2007
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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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Easter Clark,
Are you any relation to Hermann Goering?
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