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Shauneyz



Joined: 26 May 2008
Location: The land of Nod

PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:51 pm    Post subject: Oh no Reply with quote

I was reading through my E-Mails, and skimmed across one that I received from one of the teachers currently teaching at the hagwon that I think I'll be working with. I came across this line:

"XXXX is as good as it gets for teaching in Daegu. They've invested a lot of resources to help develop lesson plans, excellent apartments, support team (if you get sick, need a dentist etc), and most importantly, Mrs. Kim (the owner) is an ethical business owner."

I recall hearing a lot of bad things about a Mr Kim -- is Mrs. Kim also red-flagged?

Probably a better question though: Out of the 6 E-Mails for current teachers that I've been given, I've been in contact with 3. They all say some ups and downs of teaching and being in Korea as expected, but they all make it pretty obvious about promoting the hagwon like a commercial. It's probably nothing to be concerned about, as I've heard nothing but good things about the school...and despite sounding like a billboard for the school, one of the current teachers has a pretty detailed facebook with tons of pictures, so it seems legit.

I don't know...my bullshit meter hasn't gone off yet, though it pings every now and then. What do you think? Unnecessary paranoia?
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Shauneyz



Joined: 26 May 2008
Location: The land of Nod

PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...it isn't a big deal that I posted that quote, is it?
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

50 million people in Korea and between the surnames Kim and Lee you have a total of about 20 million people.

Finding a Kim in Korea is about the same as looking up Smith in the telephone white pages.
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R-Seoul



Joined: 23 Aug 2006
Location: your place

PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Oh no Reply with quote

Shauneyz wrote:
I recall hearing a lot of bad things about a Mr Kim -- is Mrs. Kim also red-flagged?


Mrs Kim? Oh her! Yeah don't trust the bitch. Heh heh Couldn't narrow it down a bit mate? Laughing
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

17% of Korean surnames are Kim. And yes, he's an unethical *beep*.
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Shauneyz



Joined: 26 May 2008
Location: The land of Nod

PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
50 million people in Korea and between the surnames Kim and Lee you have a total of about 20 million people.

Finding a Kim in Korea is about the same as looking up Smith in the telephone white pages.


Yeah...that's about what I expected in terms of responses. But shit...I read that line in the E-Mail, and the word "Kim" seemed to glow red or something.

So yeah...I guess paranoia it is.
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cheeseface



Joined: 13 Jan 2008
Location: Ssyangnyeon Shi

PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Kim's are a well know dangerous hogwon owning family, be careful!!
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crescent



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: yes.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Oh no Reply with quote

Shauneyz wrote:
I was reading through my E-Mails, and skimmed across one that I received from one of the teachers currently teaching at the hagwon that I think I'll be working with. I came across this line:

"XXXX is as good as it gets for teaching in Daegu. They've invested a lot of resources to help develop lesson plans, excellent apartments, support team (if you get sick, need a dentist etc), and most importantly, Mrs. Kim (the owner) is an ethical business owner."

I recall hearing a lot of bad things about a Mr Kim -- is Mrs. Kim also red-flagged?

Probably a better question though: Out of the 6 E-Mails for current teachers that I've been given, I've been in contact with 3. They all say some ups and downs of teaching and being in Korea as expected, but they all make it pretty obvious about promoting the hagwon like a commercial. It's probably nothing to be concerned about, as I've heard nothing but good things about the school...and despite sounding like a billboard for the school, one of the current teachers has a pretty detailed facebook with tons of pictures, so it seems legit.

I don't know...my bullshit meter hasn't gone off yet, though it pings every now and then. What do you think? Unnecessary paranoia?

Sounds like Yale. You have unnecessary paranoia.
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Shauneyz



Joined: 26 May 2008
Location: The land of Nod

PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hahaha alright alright alright...I get the hint.

That's why I asked the second question -- to divert attention away from the stupidity of the first: Do all E-Mails from current foreign teachers always sound like Pepsi commercials? i.e. "you'll love it here at [school x]." "[school x] has a vast library of resources for developing lesson plans, etc." I could go on...but I guess the problem isn't in what they're saying, but that they always repeat the school name, instead of diverging to another pronoun to ward off redundancy.
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R-Seoul



Joined: 23 Aug 2006
Location: your place

PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a general rule, never trust a Korean called Kim�������..or Lee.

Also; avoid Park where possible.
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rumdiary



Joined: 05 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ask to be put in contact with a former teacher. Some hogwan owners warn current teachers not to say anything negative about the school.
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d-rail



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: Gangnam

PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i found the best thing to do when considering a school is getting the phone number of a foreign teacher at the school and then finding out what time is a good time to call. speaking to someone over the phone will often clear up many concerns. just make sure the school director doesnt hand the phone to the foreign teacher and stands there listening to the conversation. i have heard of that happening too. get a cell number and call.
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endo



Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home

PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

R-Seoul wrote:
As a general rule, never trust a Korean called Kim�������..or Lee.

Also; avoid Park where possible.


The Bae's and Sohn's are great though.


All Jang's are bastards.
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Kiarell



Joined: 29 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

watch out for the Kims. I hear this guy's son is the terrible manager of a backwards wasteland in some part of Korea. I think it's called the DPRK.....so yeah, avoid all Kims.
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Shauneyz



Joined: 26 May 2008
Location: The land of Nod

PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kiarell wrote:
watch out for the Kims. I hear this guy's son is the terrible manager of a backwards wasteland in some part of Korea. I think it's called the DPRK.....so yeah, avoid all Kims.


Yup...I'll make sure to stay away from that hagwon. Thanks for the tip!

[/sarcasm]




...I knew I'd never live that Kim comment down.
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