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Gollywog
Joined: 14 Jun 2008
Location: Debussy's brain
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 Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 8:13 pm Post subject: Korea should do the honorable thing and apologize to the US |
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South Korean doctors eat US beef to show safe
By JAE-SOON CHANG � 18 hours ago
SEOUL, South Korea (AP) � Sitting at tables with built-in grills, leading South Korean doctors and business executives ate U.S. beef on Wednesday in a bid to dispel public health fears.
The 19 physicians and executives ate American sirloin, with one top doctor saying it "tastes good and tender" and telling fellow South Koreans not to worry about getting mad cow disease from eating U.S. beef.
"There is no food whatsoever that we can say is 100 percent safe," said Choo Soo-ho, head of the Korean Medical Association, South Korea's largest doctors' lobby. "But I can say the chance of catching mad cow disease (from eating U.S. beef) is nearly zero percent."
South Korea's agreement in April to resume imports of U.S. beef sparked near-daily street protests over mad cow disease concerns because the deal called for scrapping most restrictions the country had previously maintained over fears of the illness.
Despite repeated government assurances of the safety of U.S. meat, fears have been fanned due to false and sensational media reports along with unsubstantiated rumors posted on the Internet, suggesting the disease can spread through the air.
Fears became so intense that American beef is considered by some Koreans as akin to poison. Local media reported high-school girls crying over mad cow fears.
Unrelenting protests forced South Korea's government to negotiate an amendment to the April deal last month to import only beef from younger cattle considered less at risk of the disease. Still, smaller protests have continued.
U.S. beef went on sale early this month, but is still not widely available because large supermarket chains and restaurants are reluctant to sell or serve it for fear of a public backlash.
Choo said he organized the event with other doctors' and business associations to help people overcome fears of mad cow disease that he said were "not verified and sometimes exaggerated" and are now threatening to hurt the nation's economy.
"I love meat. This tastes good and tender," Choo said, dipping a piece of beef in a small salt dish.
"Eat it without any uneasiness. I can guarantee (the safety) by staking the honor of the Korean Medical Association," Moon Tai-joon, honorary chairman of the doctors' association, told reporters amid a barrage of camera flashes and smokes from the grill at his table.
The Korea Chamber of Commerce and Industry, a major business lobby, co-organized the event without government help in an effort to end the "useless argument" over U.S. beef so the nation can concentrate on overcoming economic difficulties, said spokesman Park Jong-kab.
The event, at a 30-table beef restaurant in western Seoul which began serving U.S. beef Saturday, drew wide media attention. Choo and Sohn Kyung-sik, head of the business lobby, had to stop eating several times to pose for cameras.
Owner Kim Chang-jo, 58, said consumer reaction had been positive.
"We've had about 30 calls a day inquiring about the location of our restaurant," Kim said. "There are many people who say they would buy and eat U.S. beef because it's cheaper and tastes good."
Kim's restaurant, called "Orae Drim" in Korean, serves U.S. beef for about a third of the price of domestic beef. Seasoned rib meat is sold for $8.50 while the same cut meat from domestic cattle usually sells for $25 to $30.
"Our customers say they have the right to choose, and whether we should eat U.S. beef or not should be left up to people's own discretion," Kim said. |
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gliEd1Bi_qB68ysYSDK2b_vze2ygD91Q8CT01
Why did it take five years for the Korean Medical Association to state this obvious scientific fact?
That's when this insanity started, in 2003.
The entire nation of Korea owes the United States, every American in Korea, and everyone assumed to be an American and treated rudely by Koreans, an apology.
They should begin by telling the Korean people the truth, that there is no mad cow disease outbreak in the United States.
The Korea Times article fell far short of this:
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Doctors, Businessmen Promote American Beef
By Bae Ji-sook
Staff Reporter
A group of doctors on Wednesday held an American beef tasting event in order to soothe public anxiety toward its safety.
About 30 executives from the Korean Medical Association, the country's largest group of doctors, the Korean Hospital Association, the Korea Chamber of Commerce and various others gathered at Oredeream, a restaurant specializing in imported beef in southwestern Seoul, and ate short ribs and fillet.
``It is quite worrisome that many people are worried about U.S. meat causing human mad cow disease. We hope our tasting will give people the impression that the meat is safe,'' KMA president Choo Soo-ho said. He also called for the government's tightened inspection on the beef and distribution process.
The business leaders also called for people to focus on the future of the country rather than the meat safety issue.
``The candlelit rallies showed that all people in the nation are anxious about food safety in the country and I believe the government has heard it by now. Now that medical experts are taking the lead in eating the meat, I hope people will return home and focus on reviving the economy,''' KCCI chairman Sohn Kyung-shik said.
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http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2008/07/117_27329.html
Then they should apologize to Americans living in Korea.
Then they should take out full page ads in major American newspapers stating that they were wrong, that they deceived the Korean people, or stood by and allowed the Korean people to be deceived, about America and the American beef industry.
This would be the honorable thing to do.
Does Korea have honor?
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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no, this crap started long before 2003.... I guess you missed the election that was changed because of Anti-American sentiment back in 2002...
and frankly, who give a rat's azz. |
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afsjesse
Joined: 23 Sep 2007
Location: Kickin' it in 'Kato town.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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| You know I've read about this crazy madness for three months now and quite franky I'd rather it just go away. I was a little urked in the beginning when Koreans told me that they would get sick and that the US gives Korea MCD infected beef on purpose. But it's like telling them that fan death doesn't exist... you'd talk yourself blue in the face before they understand.... An apology would be nice, but i'm not holding my breath. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 8:36 pm Post subject: Re: Korea should do the honorable thing and apologize to the |
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| Gollywog wrote: |
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Why did it take five years for the Korean Medical Association to state this obvious scientific fact?
That's when this insanity started, in 2003.
The entire nation of Korea owes the United States, every American in Korea, and everyone assumed to be an American and treated rudely by Koreans, an apology.
First of all the entire nation of Korea did not participate in the protests. If anyone owns anyone an apology it should be you to this board, for not getting your facts straight
They should begin by telling the Korean people the truth, that there is no mad cow disease outbreak in the United States.
FYI, "the entire nation of Korea" DOES include the "Korean people"...do you read what you write BEFORE posting it?
Then they should apologize to Americans living in Korea.
Who? "The entire nation of Korea"?
Then they should take out full page ads in major American newspapers stating that they were wrong, that they deceived the Korean people, or stood by and allowed the Korean people to be deceived, about America and the American beef industry.
Didn't you just say that the "entire nation of Korea" owned America an apology? If the Korean people were deceived THEY are the ones who deserve an apology...and how is the entire nation of Korea different from the Korean people?
This would be the honorable thing to do.
Does Korea have honor? |
And here you go again lumping all of Korea together when you've just finished saying the Korean people were deceived. |
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Dev
Joined: 18 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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Has the U.S. ever apologized for anything wrong it has done to other countries?
Vietnam is a good example. The U.S. has admitted to making a mistake in invading Vietnam and killing 4 million Vietnamese, but it has never apologized to the Vietnamese people for invading its country. |
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Summer Wine
Joined: 20 Mar 2005
Location: Next to a River
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| Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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Technically, the USA did not invade Vietnam, they were invited into South Vietnam and involved themselves in a civil war. One in which they subsequently walked away from in 1972 and left the South Vietnamese Government and supporters to be defeated or turned into refugees.
Even if you go back to the time that the CIA influenced the movement of catholics from North Vietnam to the South, when did the USA invade Vietnam as it never existed until after 1975 and even then the Hmong who fought until the 1990's wouldn't agree that the USA killing Vietnamese was a negative.
Or do you count the time when the OSS invaded to fight the Japanese with the support of the Viet Minh? |
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Kiarell
Joined: 29 Mar 2008
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| Summer Wine wrote: |
Technically, the USA did not invade Vietnam, they were invited into South Vietnam and involved themselves in a civil war. One in which they subsequently walked away from in 1972 and left the South Vietnamese Government and supporters to be defeated or turned into refugees.
Even if you go back to the time that the CIA influenced the movement of catholics from North Vietnam to the South, when did the USA invade Vietnam as it never existed until after 1975 and even then the Hmong who fought until the 1990's wouldn't agree that the USA killing Vietnamese was a negative.
Or do you count the time when the OSS invaded to fight the Japanese with the support of the Viet Minh? |
Invited by our own puppet dictator you dumbass |
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A2Steve
Joined: 10 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Dev wrote: |
Has the U.S. ever apologized for anything wrong it has done to other countries?
Vietnam is a good example. The U.S. has admitted to making a mistake in invading Vietnam and killing 4 million Vietnamese, but it has never apologized to the Vietnamese people for invading its country. |
I think Bush once apologized for throwing up in Japan, but I could be wrong.
he talks out of both sides of his mouth anyways, so who knows.maybe he was secretly happy he barfed..... |
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Jandar
Joined: 11 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Summer Wine wrote: |
Technically, the USA did not invade Vietnam, they were invited into South Vietnam and involved themselves in a civil war. One in which they subsequently walked away from in 1972 and left the South Vietnamese Government and supporters to be defeated or turned into refugees.
Even if you go back to the time that the CIA influenced the movement of catholics from North Vietnam to the South, when did the USA invade Vietnam as it never existed until after 1975 and even then the Hmong who fought until the 1990's wouldn't agree that the USA killing Vietnamese was a negative.
Or do you count the time when the OSS invaded to fight the Japanese with the support of the Viet Minh? |
Invited by our own puppet dictator you dumbass |
It was a French puppet you jackass. |
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michael5799042
Joined: 16 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Dev wrote: |
Has the U.S. ever apologized for anything wrong it has done to other countries?
Vietnam is a good example. The U.S. has admitted to making a mistake in invading Vietnam and killing 4 million Vietnamese, but it has never apologized to the Vietnamese people for invading its country. |
I think Bush once apologized for throwing up in Japan, but I could be wrong.
he talks out of both sides of his mouth anyways, so who knows.maybe he was secretly happy he barfed..... |
Good thing he didn't barf in Korea. |
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Kiarell
Joined: 29 Mar 2008
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It was a French puppet you jackass. |
The US supported the French in their colonial subjugation and were against the independence/communist (little "c") forces back then. The first puppet dictator was a French puppet, so a puppet of the imperialist West, I didn't mean the US specifically, though we started putting in completely US guys later on. |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map
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| Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Dev wrote: |
Has the U.S. ever apologized for anything wrong it has done to other countries?
Vietnam is a good example. The U.S. has admitted to making a mistake in invading Vietnam and killing 4 million Vietnamese, but it has never apologized to the Vietnamese people for invading its country. |
I think Bush once apologized for throwing up in Japan, but I could be wrong.
he talks out of both sides of his mouth anyways, so who knows.maybe he was secretly happy he barfed..... |
Of course, that was Bush Senior. Bush Junior could drink a vat of horse piss and ask for seconds.
Unfortunately, he expects the American people to do the same. |
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merkurix
Joined: 21 Dec 2006
Location: Not far from the deep end.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:54 pm Post subject: Re: Korea should do the honorable thing and apologize to the |
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| Gollywog wrote: |
Why did it take five years for the Korean Medical Association to state this obvious scientific fact?
That's when this insanity started, in 2003.
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Umm . . . no. Mad cow disease was a total non-issue during that time. It is true that U.S. beef imports were controversial, but only this year did the protest organizers and the media decide on a sensationalist 'fatal-for-health' mad cow spin. The day the crap-chucker protesters had a field day at the Seoul Station Lotte Mart last year was a result of perceived unfair competition against the domestic Korean beef industry. Those guys were pumped full with nationalism and often times nationalism requires a healthy dose of anti-Americanism. Or so it seems around here.
The KMA has no responsibility to dispel any health rumors because there were really none before this year. |
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Summer Wine
Joined: 20 Mar 2005
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| The US supported the French in their colonial subjugation and were against the independence/communist (little "c") forces back then. The first puppet dictator was a French puppet, so a puppet of the imperialist West, I didn't mean the US specifically, though we started putting in completely US guys later on. |
I see, so you would consider anyone who saw the support of a country from the west as benefit (which depends on where you are standing) on being a puppet if they accepted a leadership position in thier own country when supported by (Imperialists?) another country.
The issue of leadership roles in South Vietnam is quite complicated
I just have one question. How much do you really know of the Vietnam war and the conflicting issues at that period? |
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ESL Milk "Everyday
Joined: 12 Sep 2007
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I get apologies whenever the kids are acting up, to which I always respond 'don't say you're sorry, just stop doing it'. It's the same here... there's no need to apologize, but they should definitely stop protesting, because it's really really stupid.
But they should definitely apologize to all the people who got hurt, and the family of that guy who set himself on fire. |
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