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nautilus
Joined: 26 Nov 2005
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 Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:50 pm Post subject: Eight vs Ate? |
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I keep telling my korean co-teachers that the past tense of eat is pronounced "Ett".
Not "8".
"Eight" is a number.
But they have seen Americans pronounce it that way on the TV, and American pronunciation is instantly best in their minds. Wretched Americans!. |
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egrog1717
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| Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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I would disagree with you... Though I'm Canadian and we generally pronouce most things the same as in the South....
"Ate" is pronounced the same as "Eight"... |
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Katchafire
Joined: 31 Mar 2006
Location: Non curo. Si metrum non habet, non est poema
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| Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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| 'Ett' as you put it .. is more of a slang form of ate. It isn't correct, but it is quite common, as is using the term 'seen' .... I seen him yesterday - which again is used quite commonly (unfortunately, because it bugs the bejesus out of me!). |
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nautilus
Joined: 26 Nov 2005
Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!
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| Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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"Ett" is the correct pronunciation.
as in "I Ett a cake yesterday".
If you leave America and venture to any other english speaking country on earth, this is what you will hear!
It appears American corruption of our language, lazy pronunciation and slang has overtaken correctness and is now their mistakes are being broadcast globally via the TV. Whats worse, they even believe their mistakes are correct. |
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rhinocharge64
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| Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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Yep, like everything Americans tend to bastardize everything they get their hands on!!! I had some beetch from Yank land telling me that the British can't speak English.  |
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Easter Clark
Joined: 18 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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| nautilus wrote: |
"Ett" is the correct pronunciation.
as in "I Ett a cake yesterday".
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It's not correct in American English, which is what the majority of Koreans want.  You might have to bite the bullet! |
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nautilus
Joined: 26 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Easter Clark wrote: |
It's not correct in American English. |
How then do you distinguish between the number 8 and the past tense of eat?
if I am giving a spelling test to my students and I pronounce "Ett", they know what to write.
If I pronounce "8", then they know to write a number.
But in America they have merged everything out of laziness, thus removing the meaning from many words. Its not linguistically useful. Its just that slang has overtaken real language. |
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Easter Clark
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| Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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| nautilus wrote: |
How then do you distinguish between the number 8 and the past tense of eat?
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Context (the same way you distinguish between sore and saw).
And "ate" isn't slang. It's standard American English. |
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Dodgy Al
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| Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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How then do you distinguish between the number 8 and the past tense of eat?
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Arhh!! a homonym... but how do I, err wha, ghrfdrtt... (head explodes) |
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phillyb
Joined: 09 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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| nautilus wrote: |
| Easter Clark wrote: |
It's not correct in American English. |
How then do you distinguish between the number 8 and the past tense of eat?
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have you heard of a homonym?
how do you distinguish between their, there, and they're?
how do you distinguish between to, two, and too?
i work with quite a few british people, and i have never heard them say the word ett. |
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CrikeyKorea
Joined: 01 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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| nautilus wrote: |
"Ett" is the correct pronunciation.
as in "I Ett a cake yesterday".
If you leave America and venture to any other english speaking country on earth, this is what you will hear!
It appears American corruption of our language, lazy pronunciation and slang has overtaken correctness and is now their mistakes are being broadcast globally via the TV. Whats worse, they even believe their mistakes are correct. |
what are you talking about? have you been to every other english speaking country? are you canadian? anyways im from Australia and im pretty sure everyone in Australia pronounces it like eight as do most people from England and New Zealand |
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kprrok
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| Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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How to differentiate them in a spelling test? That's so simple.
"ate...past tense of eat"
"eight...the number eight"
What's so difficult about that? |
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BigBuds
Joined: 15 Sep 2005
Location: Changwon
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| Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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| CrikeyKorea wrote: |
| nautilus wrote: |
"Ett" is the correct pronunciation.
as in "I Ett a cake yesterday".
If you leave America and venture to any other english speaking country on earth, this is what you will hear!
It appears American corruption of our language, lazy pronunciation and slang has overtaken correctness and is now their mistakes are being broadcast globally via the TV. Whats worse, they even believe their mistakes are correct. |
what are you talking about? have you been to every other english speaking country? are you canadian? anyways im from Australia and im pretty sure everyone in Australia pronounces it like eight as do most people from England and New Zealand |
I'm an Aussie too, and I've never heard anyone pronounce it 'ett'. Everyone I know pronounces it 'ate' same as the number eight.
I've also been to New Zealand and have quite a few Kiwi friends and have never heard Kiwis pronounce it 'ett' either. |
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bobranger
Joined: 10 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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In my family we pronounce 8 as 'ett'. 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,'Ett'
Thats great. Nautilus goes around his school changing ate to 'ett' with such passion.
For the 8th time ate is pronounced 'ett'
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Kikomom
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: them thar hills--Penna, USA--Zippy is my kid, the teacher in ROK. You can call me Kiko
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| Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry, ett is wrong.
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** Rule 2: Where a word or final syllable ends in a �VCV� pattern, the last vowel is a �silent e,� the
preceding vowel usually represents its long sound.
Example: ate, mate, complete, invite, vote, mute.
source: PDF |
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