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reimund
Joined: 01 Oct 2007
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 12:12 am Post subject: "Daisy chaining" contracts? |
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It's a term I came up on my own, but I figure it's self-explanatory: basically, agreeing to/signing a contract, and later ditching/reneging it when a better offer comes along (before the start date).
Does anyone do this? How immoral or unethical is this considered? |
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icicle
Joined: 09 Feb 2007 Location: Gyeonggi do Korea
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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Without commenting on the ethics of this the main problem you could have is if the first employer has started the process of applying for your E2 visa ... that will delay your ability to get an E2 visa for the 2nd job .. and if your second job is not prepared to wait while it is sorted out .. then may mean losing that job. If you have sent your documents to the recruiter/school for the first job ... then the process of changing things will take time. I would suggest not accepting a job you are not sure about. If you have a couple of possible jobs that you are in the process of thinking about then don't send your documents until you are sure which one you want. There are enough jobs out there that you don't need to accept just any job to be sure of having one ... and then keep looking for the job you really want. It will only take around 2 weeks to get the E2 visa in your passport and be in a position to come to Korea after your documents arrive in Korea.
The key thing you need to think about is that the real date you should be concerned about in doing this is not the start date of the 1st job but where you are in the process of applying for the visa for it. If you have the E2 visa for the 1st job then worst case scenario would be needing to wait unitl the 3 month period to enter the country is up before getting one for the 2nd job. |
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reimund
Joined: 01 Oct 2007
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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I'm sorry. I should have mentioned that I'm on an F4 visa. |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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reimund wrote: |
I'm sorry. I should have mentioned that I'm on an F4 visa. |
Then no-one gives a rat's azz. Move along to the bigger and better.
There are no legal problems with simply quiting to move along and this is Korea, so there are no moral or ethical issues to deal with. Pocket and self first.
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i
Joined: 10 Apr 2008 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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Curious...Is a contract signed by an F2 or F4 binding by the employee? What keeps him/her from just walking when greener pastures come along? |
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broken76
Joined: 27 Jan 2008
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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Technically the contract is binding and can be taken to a court of law. I've never seen a school do this. But signing a contract and reneging is a contract violation and if the school wants to pursue it they can.
Now the strange thing is that teachers seem to have no qualms about breaking a contract with a school from the very start but freak out if the schools do anything that doesn't fit into what the teachers want.
If you're not sure about where to go tell the school. I'm looking at other options and will have an answer for you by whatever time. That way you can keep your options over and also let the original school decide to look for someone else. If you had a really good interview or left a good impression many schools will actually be willing to give you a raise or give you more leeway on making contract adjustments. |
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kprrok
Joined: 06 Apr 2004 Location: KC
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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i wrote: |
Curious...Is a contract signed by an F2 or F4 binding by the employee? What keeps him/her from just walking when greener pastures come along? |
Technically it probably is binding, but the expense of suing someone for breach of contract is most likely not worth it. I'm not sure how it works if the dates on the contract have not started, but I don't sign contracts I don't intend on keeping. |
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pkang0202

Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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i wrote: |
Curious...Is a contract signed by an F2 or F4 binding by the employee? What keeps him/her from just walking when greener pastures come along? |
Things like severance. If I'm 8 months into a contract, I'll think twice before moving on because the severance will disappear.
Alo, you gotta be careful with burning bridges. I'm with SMOE now, and if I break my SMOE contract, chances are they won't hire me again. That locks out juat about every public school in Seoul for me. |
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reimund
Joined: 01 Oct 2007
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 12:47 am Post subject: |
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broken76 wrote: |
If you're not sure about where to go tell the school. I'm looking at other options and will have an answer for you by whatever time. That way you can keep your options over and also let the original school decide to look for someone else. If you had a really good interview or left a good impression many schools will actually be willing to give you a raise or give you more leeway on making contract adjustments. |
The difficult part about my situation is that the first school left me a deadline to reply, while the second school that I'm interested in more, won't select applicants until next month. If I decline the first offer, I might be left without a job at all if the second one falls through.
Pkang: How is the SMOE gig working out for you? How does it compare with GEPIK? |
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