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Geckoman
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 Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 4:38 am Post subject: Korea to Recall Ambassador to Japan Over Dokdo Controversy! |
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South Korea is now recalling their ambassador to Japan over the Dokdo controversy! 
Because of anger over Japan's plan to put in their textbooks that Dokdo/Takeshima is Japan's territory Korea is going as far as to recall their ambassador in Japan.
Like, give me a break. 
Talk about Koreans over reacting to Japan's claim that Dokdo/Takeshima is Japanese territory, again.
This is the top story in today's -- Tuesday, July 15th, 2008 -- two major English-language newspapers, The Korea Times and The Korea Herald.
What about the recent shooting and death of a South Korean tourist by North Korea? After all, a fellow South Korean citizen was actually murdered. And by the "real" enemy -- North Korea.
North Korea is a real military threat. Japan is an ally.
That story has taken a back seat to Japan's plan to say in their textbooks that Dokdo/Takeshima is Japanese territory.
I can understand some anger over Japan's latest move, but is it necessary to recall Korea's ambassador to Japan over what some textbooks will say about Dokdo/Takeshima.
Where is the rational?
Read The Korea Times story about it below or at http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2008/07/116_27562.html
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Korea to Recall Ambassador to Japan
Seoul Maps Out Countermeasures to Tokyo�s Claim Over Dokdo
July 14th, 2008
By Na Jeong-ju
Staff Reporter
President Lee Myung-bak will recall South Korea's ambassador to Japan Wednesday in protest of Tokyo's decision to define South Korea's easternmost islets of Dokdo as its territory in guidebooks for history teachers.
Minister of Foreign Affairs and Trade Yu Myung-hwan also called in Japanese Ambassador Toshinori Shigeie and delivered a message of protest.
``It is deeply regrettable and disappointing that Tokyo has once again laid claim to Dokdo, which is part of South Korea's territory, historically, geographically and under international laws,'' Lee said. ``I will deal sternly with any attempts to ignore Korea's sovereignty over Dokdo.''
Political parties also called for strong action against Japan. In a statement, the governing Grand National Party (GNP) called Japan's claim an ``act of aggression and madness.''
The strong words came after Tokyo said it would refer in a middle school teaching guide to the islets as Japanese territory. The document for teachers and textbook publishers is non-binding, but will likely influence textbook contents.
Korea's Ambassador to Japan Kwon Chul-hyun visited the Japanese Foreign Ministry in Tokyo in the afternoon to officially protest the ``distortion.''
Cheong Wa Dae said Seoul is considering boycotting the summit talks between the leaders of South Korea, China and Japan, scheduled for September in Japan.
``Japan has again laid territorial claim to Dokdo in violation of bilateral partnership agreements,'' Cheong Wa Dae spokesman Lee Dong-kwan said. ``We are determined to take strong countermeasures. We will take various diplomatic, academic and administrative actions to strengthen our sovereign control of Dokdo.''
The territorial dispute is expected to deepen in the weeks to come, dampening Seoul's efforts to improve relations with Tokyo. Japan has frequently claimed that the islets, known as Takeshima in Japanese, belong to it.
Last week, President Lee met with Japanese Prime Minister Yasuo Fukuda on the sidelines of an expanded G8 summit in Japan and conveyed the South Korean people's concern about the move to define Dokdo as Japanese territory. Lee called for a ``future-oriented relationship'' between the two neighbors and Fukuda welcomed the proposal.
The Ministry of Defense said it has ordered troops to reinforce the defense of the islets.
The Ministry of Land, Transport and Maritime Affairs said it would conduct extensive research into the ecosystem, fishing resources and maritime environment in the sea surrounding Dokdo.
The education minister will also send a letter of protest to his Japanese counterpart, while the South Korean police chief will call the head of the contingent stationed on Dokdo to give words of encouragement and instruct on the reinforcement of maritime defenses, the presidential office said.
South Korean academic foundations will hold a series of forums in Seoul to call international attention to the past record of Japan's historical and territorial distortions.
When Tokyo made a similar claim to Dokdo in 2005, then President Roh Moo-hyun adopted hard-line measures, suspending his shuttle diplomacy with then Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi and easing rules for South Koreans to travel to Dokdo.
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Source: The Korea Times; Tuesday, July 15th, 2008; http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2008/07/116_27562.html |
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Gwangjuboy
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 4:49 am Post subject: |
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| This is a political maneuver by Lee Myung Bak; he can finally win over some of the nationalists who are currently denouncing his US beef policy. Of course it's a cheap populist move but it doesn't take much to whip up the generally excitable Koreans into a frenzy. |
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Ginormousaurus
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 4:55 am Post subject: |
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| A political maneuver as obvious as the reaction it will receive. |
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Cotal Tunt
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 4:58 am Post subject: |
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Asian nationalism is retarded in a way that makes down syndrome sufferers feel normal.
No doubt mister ambassador will be back in Tokyo after a week visiting the relatives, drinking soju to remember how shit it is, and lying to the gnp that somehow the Japanese are sh�tting their cacks in the face of the sparkle dragon. |
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nautilus
Joined: 26 Nov 2005
Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:08 am Post subject: Re: Korea to Recall Ambassador to Japan Over Dokdo Controver |
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| Geckoman wrote: |
What about the recent shooting and death of a South Korean tourist by North Korea? After all, a fellow South Korean citizen was actually murdered. And by the "real" enemy -- North Korea.
North Korea is a real military threat. Japan is an ally.
Where is the rational? |
The rational is to pander to those who present a real threat, and behave like a child to those who present no threat (ie allies).
You can see the same spineless mentality running through korean society from the hogwon on up. Placate the bully and let the good students go. Victimise what is weaker: attack your friends, suck up to your enemies. |
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Kikomom
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: them thar hills--Penna, USA--Zippy is my kid, the teacher in ROK. You can call me Kiko
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:58 am Post subject: |
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These two are jockeying for position. Looks like this could shape up to be another Falklands debacle.
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The Ministry of Defense said it has ordered troops to reinforce the defense of the islets.
The Ministry of Land, Transport and Maritime Affairs said it would conduct extensive research into the ecosystem, fishing resources and maritime environment in the sea surrounding Dokdo. |
Environmental Protection studies are the first step to getting permission for any kind of development. Rewriting history for school children is another first step in setting precedence. |
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nautilus
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 6:11 am Post subject: |
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| Kikomom wrote: |
The Ministry of Land, Transport and Maritime Affairs said it would conduct extensive research into the ecosystem, fishing resources and maritime environment in the sea surrounding Dokdo. |
In other words they're going to trash its environment with ugly development.
First, turn the mainland into an eyesore, then move onto the islands. |
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bigverne
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 6:14 am Post subject: |
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| These two are jockeying for position. Looks like this could shape up to be another Falklands debacle. |
The uninhabitable Dokdo, is not really comparable to the Falklands, which has been home to British settlers for over 150 years. In fact, both Korean and Japanese claims to the islands are rather tenuous. |
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Kikomom
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 6:16 am Post subject: |
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| Nautilus wrote: |
| In other words they're going to trash its environment with ugly development. |
Not if the appropriate EPA finds something there worth saving. From what I've heard here, it's only a pile of rocks.
In another thread I've been contending that this is about the rights to offshore drilling. Fishing too, both are real moneymakers for whoever has their ducks lined up to get those rights.
Ten bucks says the 7th Fleet visits the area soon. Dubbya's final hoo-rah.
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ryouga013
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:24 am Post subject: Re: Korea to Recall Ambassador to Japan Over Dokdo Controver |
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| Geckoman wrote: |
| I can understand some anger over Japan's latest move, but is it necessary to recall Korea's ambassador to Japan over what some textbooks will say about Dokdo/Takeshima. |
That's OK, Japan call recall their ambassador from Korea because Korea claims it to be theirs.. then they'll be even, right? Wait, hopefully the Japanese aren't nearly that retarded to sink to that level...
So, what things has Korea done to make the world think Dokdo and The Sea of Japan are not "Japanese" in nature?
~~~The Dokdo riders, riding a across Canada and the US spreading "the good word."
~~~the map slander cases (Koreans state that Japan bribed many people to make the maps say "Sea of Japan" when in fact they didn't have to because Korea wasn't a country when the international name was agreed upon, boo-hoo)
~~~Full page ads in newspapers where no one would give a shyte by some no name whose qualifications are what again? a musician... not a historian, just someone that wants to state their opinion and state it as fact.
~~~and now... removal of their ambassador... that will show them! |
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sunnyvale
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:00 am Post subject: |
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| This will all make for great entertainment and amusement. I love it. |
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visitorq
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:16 am Post subject: |
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Japan needs to get rid of it's totally obsolete pacifist leanings, re-arm proportionately to the kind of world power it really is, and just crush such pissant Korean opposition. F*** it, just send in couple aircraft carriers and take the goddam things. There'd be plenty moaning and crying of course, and self-immolation, but Korea could never do anything about it and Japan has never cared about that crap. That they ever let Korea get away with this kind of insolence for this long truly boggles the mind.
Oh, and Takeshima is actually Japan's anyway (if you check the facts). |
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sjrm
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:21 am Post subject: |
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| Just bomb the damn area and get the stupid argument over with. |
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sjrm
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:23 am Post subject: |
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| visitorq wrote: |
Japan needs to get rid of it's totally obsolete pacifist leanings, re-arm proportionately to the kind of world power it really is, and just crush such pissant Korean opposition. F*** it, just send in couple aircraft carriers and take the goddam things. There'd be plenty moaning and crying of course, and self-immolation, but Korea could never do anything about it and Japan has never cared about that crap. That they ever let Korea get away with this kind of insolence for this long truly boggles the mind.
Oh, and Takeshima is actually Japan's anyway (if you check the facts). |
Japan probably had more important things to worry about, like progressing out of the Dark Ages, and into the present. |
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Scotticus
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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| sjrm wrote: |
Japan probably had more important things to worry about, like progressing out of the Dark Ages, and into the present. |
Ummm, outside of the years immediately following the war, Japan has been one of the most advanced nations in the world for well over a century. |
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