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MollyBloom



Joined: 21 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:36 pm    Post subject: just curious... Reply with quote

...if there are any bazaars or markets in South Korea where one can buy endangered animal products, like hawksbill turtle shells or elephant tusks?

I was reading this article that stated that while Japan does not delve in this practice anymore, items can still be bought in South Korea. I was trying to think of where they would sell it. Would it be underground markets, or would they sell it in the open at markets, but just not advertise? You know, if you know someone, that sort of thing. You'd think they would crack down on that already.
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Faunaki



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't answer your question now but will ask my MIL who told me the other day that it used to be common to eat cat soup to cure bone disease.
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MollyBloom



Joined: 21 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Faunaki wrote:
I can't answer your question now but will ask my MIL who told me the other day that it used to be common to eat cat soup to cure bone disease.


What kind of cat? You'd think if they wanted a feline for that, they'd choose a puma or tiger over a puny minx cat!
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billybrobby



Joined: 09 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was lucky enough to see two members of the highly endangered Felis Catus species just the other day. No doubt they had barely escaped the soup bowl and were on their way to rejoin with the last of their kind.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I once had a student whose 'job' as a boy was to go out and catch stray cats to bring home for his mom. She made cat soup out of them for her back pain.
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R-Seoul



Joined: 23 Aug 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember some K-chick, who came from some shithole in the countryside, telling me that her father once killed the family cat with a hammer to make soup for her sick mother. Even though she was a child at the time she could still remember the pathetic wailings of the cat as her father pounded it in the head.
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i



Joined: 10 Apr 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My wife (Korean) showed me a restaurant where they sold cat soup several years ago in Kwang Ju. It was in the back room of a music store. It's like they were embarassed to sell or eat it.
I ask my students if they like "go-yang-i tang" and they act like there is no such thing. Then I tell them I just love Kimchi Ice Cream.
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i



Joined: 10 Apr 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe the topic has been hijacked. But if you ask a wealthy old-timer, you might find out. I seem to remember that some Chinese Medicine shops carry some illegal stuff and you have to ask for it. It's like anything illegal here. You can get it, but you have to be able to ask for it and pay the price. 1 bear gallbladder please.
On a seperate note, people here use deer horn in Chinese medicine. So once I was going home and asked if I could bring some deer horns from home and sell at the Chinese pharmacy. I was told US deer horns are not acceptable to cure whatever the Asian horns cure. Rocket science I guess.
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warren pease



Joined: 12 May 2008

PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone ever see the movie "Gummo"?
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Kikomom



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: them thar hills--Penna, USA--Zippy is my kid, the teacher in ROK. You can call me Kiko

PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, but I will play for Gumbo.

Molly, find the makers of cat soup (they gave you lots of hints here) and they may tell you where to find the other exoctics you quest after. After all, if it's a passed-on tradition, they may know more.

It's kinda like a scavenger hunt.

Now would be a good time to tell my duck soup story. It was pretty much a day like today. Picture this: 3 sisters, age 7, 6, 4, sitting on the cellar steps seeing our 'pet' duck (that was a freebie brought home from bible camp one summer, many many moons ago) strung up by it's feet from the rafters--already dead, thank goodness. My dad, who had assembled us, says, "Kids, I'm gonna show you how to skin a duck."
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Scotticus



Joined: 18 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
I once had a student whose 'job' as a boy was to go out and catch stray cats to bring home for his mom. She made cat soup out of them for her back pain.


You'd think she'd figure out it wasn't working after the first 10 or 15 times...

Of course this would be impossible to ever truly find, but I wonder who the hell comes up with this stuff? Every culture has these weird "home remedies" that are sometimes right but more often hilariously wrong. Who decided cats are good for bone pain? Was there a meeting that settled, once and for all, that tortured dogs give you stronger boners?
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Kikomom



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scotticus wrote:

Of course this would be impossible to ever truly find, but I wonder who the hell comes up with this stuff? Every culture has these weird "home remedies" that are sometimes right but more often hilariously wrong. Who decided cats are good for bone pain? Was there a meeting that settled, once and for all, that tortured dogs give you stronger boners?


Here's some from the Pennsylvania Dutch:

Pow-Wows: Long Lost Friend
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includes a number of charms, hexes and spells. Amongst these are numerous cures for bleeding, warts, colic, epilepsy, headaches, scurvy, tapeworms and many livestock ailments, as well as charms for a safe journey, catching lots of fish, legal success, protection against bullets, driving away vermin, bringing back lost animals and so forth. More esoteric/mystical things include spells against witchcraft, evil spirits and the like, as well as binding a theif or releasing someone from bindings. Theres also certain lore such as advice for pregnant women, unlucky days and hunting talismans.

This is quite an encyclopedic work, covering just about every element of rural folk magic in the United States. This is quite a wonderful book for anyone interested in magic, mysticism and the occult (especially in a historical, folk or Christian context), and a uniquely American book.

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first published around 1820, contains a wealth of information and insight into traditional healing, spell-casting, and folk remedies from a rather historically elusive character named John George Hohman. Many of the incantations are tracable back to the Rhine area of Germany during the late Middle ages and many have Cabbalistic and pre-christian roots as well. Hohman was, in reality, a compiler of information adding local German, Scots-Irish and American Indian remedies to his work.
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billybrobby



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

R-Seoul wrote:
I remember some K-chick, who came from some shithole in the countryside, telling me that her father once killed the family cat with a hammer to make soup for her sick mother. Even though she was a child at the time she could still remember the pathetic wailings of the cat as her father pounded it in the head.


The guy is cracking a cat in the head with a hammer and it's conscious and wailing? Lazy bastard needs to put his back into it.
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MollyBloom



Joined: 21 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the tips, but I still don't know who I should ask. Plus, I don't speak fluent Korean, so I don't know what I would say. I guess when I get back to Seoul I can look up some old K-friends and see if they know where to go, that is, if they aren't offended. I just think it would be cool to see some of the stuff they have at these places. Sorry if that's sadistic Twisted Evil
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One2many



Joined: 22 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MollyBloom wrote:
Faunaki wrote:
I can't answer your question now but will ask my MIL who told me the other day that it used to be common to eat cat soup to cure bone disease.


What kind of cat? You'd think if they wanted a feline for that, they'd choose a puma or tiger over a puny minx cat!


Tiger-Dragon soup in China = cat-snake

Yum!
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