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pkang0202

Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:29 am Post subject: Obama Camp OWNED! |
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http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=l4vlBgh7KLg
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"We can send 15,000 more troops, 20,000 more troops, 30,000 more troops. I don't know any expert on the region or any military officer that I've spoken to privately, that believes that is going to make a substantial difference on the situation on the ground."
-Barack Obama
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Here's a free tip from me Obama. Get some new experts on the region, and some new military officers. Bush, General Patraeus, and a slew of other people backed the surge. |
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RufusW
Joined: 14 Jun 2008 Location: Busan
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:35 am Post subject: |
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I'd prefer someone who lies to stay out of wars... |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Location: retired
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pkang0202

Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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mises wrote: |
Who cares. This is almost over anyways.
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The World should care. Obama was CLEARLY in favor of withdrawing from Iraq. "Cut and Run" if I may. People want this guy as President? Someone who says, "Yeah, its too hard. Lets just give up." |
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Bibbitybop

Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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pkang0202 wrote: |
"Yeah, its too hard. Lets just give up." |
What about "it was wrong to begin with, is still wrong now, let's go home." |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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Bibbitybop wrote: |
pkang0202 wrote: |
"Yeah, its too hard. Lets just give up." |
What about "it was wrong to begin with, is still wrong now, let's go home." |
Yup.
FYI pkang, Obama has acknowledged the surge has worked. Have you not been reading the news? "Progressives" are worried about Obama's change of position on Iraq.
And who is to say that clip isn't out of context? Perhaps Obama also said, "What is more important is a change of strategy. Presently what we're doing isn't working. It doesn't matter if you add...... "
Obama isn't owned here at all. His campaign manager does look silly. Oh well, that's politics for you. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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Bush's dogged stubbornness re: the surge is to be commended. Everyone misunderestimated him.
America's reason for being the in Middle East is protecting the Greater Saudi oil supply. Any withdrawal from Iraq will entail some understanding, tacit, strategic, or explict, but hopefully at least two of the previous three, that America's oil supply is not to be threatened.
Obama sees this, and he is not going to give up Iraq unless he gets the right agreements and concessions. Good for him. |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Location: Goseong
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:18 am Post subject: |
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"We must be as careful getting out of Iraq as we were careless getting in." |
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pkang0202

Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:00 am Post subject: |
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bucheon bum wrote: |
FYI pkang, Obama has acknowledged the surge has worked. Have you not been reading the news? |
Of course he has to acknowledge it is working. Everyone in the world would call him an idiot if he didn't. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Location: retired
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:19 am Post subject: |
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Was it the "surge" or the handing out money to guys that previously were killing that's working??
Anyways, the outcome of the war is the raiding of the American Treasury. That sure as shit is working. |
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ReeseDog

Joined: 05 Apr 2008 Location: Classified
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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pkang0202 wrote: |
bucheon bum wrote: |
FYI pkang, Obama has acknowledged the surge has worked. Have you not been reading the news? |
Of course he has to acknowledge it is working. Everyone in the world would call him an idiot if he didn't. |
Everyone in the world knows he's an idiot anyway. |
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