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wylies99

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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:36 am Post subject: South Korea mud festival considers banning U.S. troops |
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http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=56193
South Korea mud festival considers banning U.S. troops
By Ashley Rowland and Hwang Hae-rym, Stars and Stripes
Pacific edition, Thursday, July 17, 2008
SEOUL � The manager of a popular South Korean beach festival said Tuesday that drunken and rowdy U.S. troops are such a problem that organizers have considered banning servicemembers from the event.
Lee Won-ku, manager for the Boryeong Mud Festival, said the number of U.S. troops at the festival has jumped dramatically in the past two years. So has the number of fights and the amount of trash, he said.
"Most soldiers drink like deadbeats all day and night on the beach, and leave mountains of garbage the following morning," he said.
"The spots where they play � are a complete mess. After they leave, we wonder, was this a spot where beasts or humans were playing?" he asked.
Lee said it�s easy to identify U.S. troops because of their short haircuts. But because it would be difficult to prove which festival-goers are in the military, organizers decided not to ban troops from the event.
The Mud Festival, which features mineral-rich mud pumped from local fields onto the beach, is popular with foreigners. Ads for this year�s festival prominently featured a bikini-clad, mud-covered Western woman crowd-surfing at the event. About half of the people in the crowd behind her appear to be Caucasian.
According to Boryeong City, 2.1 million South Koreans and 70,000 foreigners attended last year�s Mud Festival. About 80,000 to 100,000 foreigners are expected to attend this year�s festival, which began July 12 and continues through Sunday.
Lee�s comments come after an airman from Kunsan Air Base was detained by police Saturday after he got drunk, tried to steal a car and beat up two South Koreans, a South Korean police spokesman said.
The airman was heavily intoxicated when he tried to pull a 43-year-old South Korean driver out of his car at about 8:20 p.m. at a public parking lot at Daechon Beach, where the festival was held, the spokesman said.
The airman then tried to beat a 25-year-old male passenger. The two South Koreans, who sustained minor abrasions and scratches, were able to control him and turned him over to local police, according to the spokesman.
The airman told police that he couldn�t remember what happened because he was drunk, the spokesman said. No charges have been filed yet, but police said the airman will be questioned again this week.
Kunsan spokesman Lt. Dave Herndon said he couldn�t release the name or rank of the airman, who is a member of the 8th Communications Squadron, or comment on the incident because it is under investigation. He said the airman was not part of a Kunsan-sponsored trip to the Mud Festival.
This is the first time an American servicemember has gotten in trouble at the festival, the police spokesman said.
Lee said a group of drunken soldiers got into a fight on Saturday, and one lost consciousness and was taken by ambulance to a hospital.
"It�s OK to have fun at the beach. That�s what we want the tourists to do," Lee said. "But they are playing like crazy, and not caring about others at all. We feel so distressed and are worried about losing our good reputation because of them." |
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Newbie

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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:48 am Post subject: |
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Probably just Canadians pretending to be soldiers. |
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diver
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:53 am Post subject: |
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Or the two Koreans in the car mouthed off at the GI and when he took them on, they told the cops he tried to steal the car. |
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loose_ends
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:57 am Post subject: Re: South Korea mud festival considers banning U.S. troops |
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wylies99 wrote: |
http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=56193
Lee Won-ku, manager for the Boryeong Mud Festival, said the number of U.S. troops at the festival has jumped dramatically in the past two years. So has the number of fights and the amount of trash, he said.
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That is hilarious. |
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Scotticus
Joined: 18 Mar 2007
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:23 am Post subject: Re: South Korea mud festival considers banning U.S. troops |
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wylies99 wrote: |
This is the first time an American servicemember has gotten in trouble at the festival, the police spokesman said.
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Wait, huh? So the whole article is about what assholes the soldiers are... and then it goes on to say this guy is the FIRST GI to get in trouble at the festival. Is anyone else seeing a small contradiction here? |
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crescent

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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:40 am Post subject: |
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[sarcasm]Koreans don't litter much. Ever seen Haeundae Beach? [/sarcasm] |
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Frankly Mr Shankly
Joined: 13 Feb 2008
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:41 am Post subject: |
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I'd favour banning Koreans from the thing. |
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merkurix
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:44 am Post subject: |
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diver wrote: |
Or the two Koreans in the car mouthed off at the GI and when he took them on, they told the cops he tried to steal the car. |
Thank God for the SOFA. Without it, I think soldiers would be crucified solely on exaggerated hearsay on a daily basis (valid evidence in Korean courts?). |
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CheeseSandwich
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:47 am Post subject: |
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merkurix wrote: |
diver wrote: |
Or the two Koreans in the car mouthed off at the GI and when he took them on, they told the cops he tried to steal the car. |
Thank God for the SOFA. Without it, I think soldiers would be crucified solely on exaggerated hearsay on a daily basis (valid evidence in Korean courts?). |
I'm all for the US taking its boys out of here. Take our money, and our toys, and our joint training and go home. If Korea can't stand on it's own feet any more then so be it.
I'm not a soldier, but I have more than a few freinds, from privates to captains, and I'm sick of hearing how US soldiers are these big hairy beasts. You'd think from hearing my co-teachers talk that a soldier personally came up to them and punched them in the gut, but non of them have even met a US soldier before. |
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Frankly Mr Shankly
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:49 am Post subject: |
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merkurix wrote: |
diver wrote: |
Or the two Koreans in the car mouthed off at the GI and when he took them on, they told the cops he tried to steal the car. |
Thank God for the SOFA. Without it, I think soldiers would be crucified solely on exaggerated hearsay on a daily basis (valid evidence in Korean courts?). |
Yeah, ergo the case that was reported on one of the expat blogs a while ago where a woman was brushed by a car driven by a US serviceman. You'd have thought that the silly *beep* had her arm and leg amputated the way she carried on, asking for an apology and almost going apoplectic about the way 'foreigners don't respect Korean culture'. I think she admitted to perjury as well, in order to get the outcome she expected. It's very common here and I have seen it used to great effect against a friend of mine. |
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endo

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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:49 am Post subject: |
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Frankly Mr Shankly wrote: |
I'd favour banning Koreans from the thing. |
....except for the hot chicks.
But seriously I was there last weekend and out all night. I didn't see any major problems. Everyone seemed to be cool. It wasn't a hostile vibe or anything.
And the "trash" problem? Give me a god damn break you dumb azz mo-fos!!!
Where the hell were the garbage cans? There were some, but not enough for the amount of people there. |
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endo

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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:52 am Post subject: |
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And don't even get me started on the taxi drivers in that city. |
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matthews_world
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:58 am Post subject: |
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Has there been any sort of rock festival there in the past during this festival?
That might be a way to separate the riff raff and let the Koreans have fun doing their own thing. |
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tob55
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:58 am Post subject: Mud Festival |
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I am not a drinker anyway, but what do they expect, they want everyone to build a bonfire and stand around singing kumbaya? There are plenty of other problems they have going on at the festival and the key is to stay away from the trouble areas. My wife and I spent the weekend at the festival last week and plan to do the same this week for the closing. Sure I saw lots of people drinking and rowdy, but it's an International festival. They want it to be an International festival. It isn't like the Koreans are all walking around with prayer beads, although the two Korean guys preaching, telling people they were going to hell in Korean, and beating the drums while one of the earlier rock concerts was going on was quite a sight.
You want to clean up the problems, then there are a host of Korean rather than non-foreigner issues they better look at before they start accusing the foreigners for all the evils and problems taking place at this festival IMHO. I am not making excuses for stupidity on the part of foreigners who can't control their behavior when they drink, but there is a much bigger picture than they are letting people see. |
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Frankly Mr Shankly
Joined: 13 Feb 2008
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:06 am Post subject: |
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endo wrote: |
Frankly Mr Shankly wrote: |
I'd favour banning Koreans from the thing. |
....except for the hot chicks. |
Agreed. While they ain't my thang, some of you seem to lust after chicks who look like a girlfriend from the front and a boyfriend from the back. Wouldn't want to deprive you of that. Bit too underdone in the colour department for my liking, too.
endo wrote: |
But seriously I was there last weekend and out all night. I didn't see any major problems. Everyone seemed to be cool. It wasn't a hostile vibe or anything.
And the "trash" problem? Give me a god damn break you dumb azz mo-fos!!!
Where the hell were the garbage cans? There were some, but not enough for the amount of people there. |
I currently stay in Ilsan, La Festa to be precise, a large entertainment and shopping district. On an average Friday or Saturday night one is literally sh*tbox-deep in flyers advertising the services of grilled pig restaurants, screen golf emporia or parlours full of shady ladies. You can sit outside the Buy the Way with a beer and watch the lads employed to 'distribute' this detritus adding to the midden pile of waste paper and measure its growth across the walking strip. You can similarly observe the joys of Korean bucks engaging in fisticuffs, or should that be footsiecuffs, as they get obstreperous with each other after a few snifters of soju and break out the Tae Kwon Do/handbag theatrics. But oh no, as soon as whitey gets involved in the mere act of adding to the sullying of the Vaterland with a stray beer can, we need to write to the papers about it and take drastic measures. Honestly though, how do they know who is a GI and who is not? |
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