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IncognitoHFX
Joined: 06 May 2007
Location: Yeongtong, Suwon
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 Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:12 pm Post subject: Visa questions / issues |
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I have two friends from back home heading over soon. I got them both jobs at public schools just blocks down the road from where I work.
The application procedure these days is extremely rough, way moreso than I remember it, and they're being rejected left and right by the consulate and the government here because they didn't fill out their paper work exactly right, or forgot to send notorized police checks, et cetera.
Now, regarding the Visa, can my friends send their information to the Korean gov't directly and get the Visa that way? How long does it take? All of their documents are here except notorized police checks (well, they are notorized, but the notorization "wasn't good enough" because it was from the police themselves). So I'd have to wait on their police checks to get here before we could submit.
Or can I send the bulk of the information (there is a lot of stuff here) to the Korean government on behalf of my friends, then get them to only send their notorized criminal records checks to Montreal's consulate? Would that make things faster?
How long would the Visa take in either scenario? Do they still need an issuance number from the government first, and how long does that take?
Also, my friends want a piece of paper from the public schools assuring them that they're hired before they purchase plane tickets. Is this possible? Or should I just assure them verbally?
It shouldn't be this hard, but every person they call gives them different information and different procedures. Even the websites are contradictory.
Sorry about all these newb questions. I've only came over once, and haven't had to repeat this stuff. Plus I came over before the new regulations. |
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plynx
Joined: 03 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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| your posting is a bit confusing. YOU got your friends jobs at public schools? where have they been sending their documents? "the government"? all relevant materials required for the visa should be sent to the employer, who then applies for the visa through "immigration" on behalf of the employee. the visa itself (and the CONTRACT - the piece of paper stating that they actually have jobs in korea) should vouch for the employment of your friends. if they have contracts and are potentially getting ready to receive confirmation numbers from their employer/s (?), then what more are they looking for? |
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IncognitoHFX
Joined: 06 May 2007
Location: Yeongtong, Suwon
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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| plynx wrote: |
| your posting is a bit confusing. YOU got your friends jobs at public schools? where have they been sending their documents? "the government"? all relevant materials required for the visa should be sent to the employer, who then applies for the visa through "immigration" on behalf of the employee. the visa itself (and the CONTRACT - the piece of paper stating that they actually have jobs in korea) should vouch for the employment of your friends. if they have contracts and are potentially getting ready to receive confirmation numbers from their employer/s (?), then what more are they looking for? |
No, I'm working very closely with a recruiter friend of mine who is new at the business. They're my friends too, so I want to be involved in the process and make sure they get here okay. We have all of their documentation in our hands EXCEPT their CRCs, because the CRCs they sent us weren't "good enough". They were notorized by the police and for some reason the government won't accept that. Now the CRCs have been notorized correctly (according to the Korean consulate in Montreal) and we're waiting on them in Korea.
We're both equally confused by all of this and need some clarification, clarification that can't be settled by the government for some reason. We just found them schools a few days ago, we're waiting on their crimincal record checks and we're going to submit everything to the government.
But since their CRCs haven't been sent yet, I was just wondering if it could go to Montreal instead and still count towards the issuance number, or if all of the issuance number stuff has to come from the Korean government in Korea.
Basically, we're just checking to see if we're doing things right. I think I've became more confused than I should've been. When I go to the websites and talk to people, I keep hearing different stories about stuff. I called the Korean consulate in Montreal and to be honest, it sounded as if they didn't know what to do.
It's all very confusing. |
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IncognitoHFX
Joined: 06 May 2007
Location: Yeongtong, Suwon
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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It gets worse.
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From the consulate's website, regarding things to be sent to the CONSULATE after the issuance number has been recieved by the teacher (after the teacher sent nearly all the same stuff to Korea):
1) For individuals with visa issuance number : For teachers invited by the Ministry of Education ( EPIK teachers) :
1. Visa Application form duly completed and signed
2. Passport with remaining validity of at least 6 months
3. One recent Canadian passport color photo
4. CAD $55.00 money order, payable to the Korean Consulate(NOpersonal cheques)
5. Out-of-town locations: Prepaid, self-addressed return(Xpresspost or Priority of Canada Post) envelope (Not registered mail)
6. A certified copy of university degree
7. A sealed transcript of university
8. Original employment contract from the superintendent ofEducational Affairs
9. Original Notice of appointment
10. A copy of notarized criminal record check certified withconsular confirmation stamp to present to the Ministry ofEducation(Effective Dec. 15, 2007) |
So, all of that goes to the consulate according to their website? That's BS. Doesn't half of that just go to the government here for the issuance number? Or does everything have to go to both places? |
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sheba
Joined: 16 May 2005
Location: Here there and everywhere!
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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I contacted my local Korean Consulate and they they said all I need to take there is the visa issuance number, application, passport photos and money... and interviews are only for first time teachers.
The other documents are needed to get the visa issuance number, which they didnt seem to know a lot about. My employed should call Korean immigration in Seoul and he can get me the information instead... aparently. |
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IncognitoHFX
Joined: 06 May 2007
Location: Yeongtong, Suwon
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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| sheba wrote: |
I contacted my local Korean Consulate and they they said all I need to take there is the visa issuance number, application, passport photos and money... and interviews are only for first time teachers.
The other documents are needed to get the visa issuance number, which they didnt seem to know a lot about. My employed should call Korean immigration in Seoul and he can get me the information instead... aparently. |
Are you going to work at a hagwon or a public school though? I think the rules might be different.
According to the website, my friends need (public school):
-Two degrees (one for Korea and one for Montreal. One authentic and one notorized)
-Two transcripts (")
-One CRC notorized by the consulate, which needs to be sent back to the applicant and copied then sent to Korea
-Two signed contracts (one in Korea and one for the consulate)
-and a signed letter from the an official of education in Korea or some such thing to go to the Montreal embassy. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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You can't do anything without the CRCs.
After they (the applicants) get them they need to get them embassy certified and then send to you/the recruiter:
2 passport sized photos 2.5*3.5cm
resume
sealed transcript
Embassy certified copy of the degree
Embassy certified copy of the CRC
copy of / scan of the passport information page
signed contract ((3 copies) 1 for the teacher (they keep), 1 for the school and 1 for immigration)
The recruiter/school agent takes these along with the sponsorship paper, business registration and application to the immigration office with jurisdiction to apply for the visa confirmation number.
AFTER the school/agent gets the visa confirmation number it gets sent back to the teacher/applicant.
They take this along with their passport, cash, application and another passport type photo to the consulate to get their interview and visa affixed into the passport.
They book their ticket and fly over.
There is no legal way to rush the process.
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IncognitoHFX
Joined: 06 May 2007
Location: Yeongtong, Suwon
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
You can't do anything without the CRCs.
After they (the applicants) get them they need to get them embassy certified and then send to you/the recruiter:
2 passport sized photos 2.5*3.5cm
resume
sealed transcript
Embassy certified copy of the degree
Embassy certified copy of the CRC
copy of / scan of the passport information page
signed contract ((3 copies) 1 for the teacher (they keep), 1 for the school and 1 for immigration)
The recruiter/school agent takes these along with the sponsorship paper, business registration and application to the immigration office with jurisdiction to apply for the visa confirmation number.
AFTER the school/agent gets the visa confirmation number it gets sent back to the teacher/applicant.
They take this along with their passport, cash, application and another passport type photo to the consulate to get their interview and visa affixed into the passport.
They book their ticket and fly over.
There is no legal way to rush the process.
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One problem is that they sent over their original degrees already. I have to check with my friend to see if they have been verified by the consulate. If not, can they get verified here? By, say, the Canadian embassy?
...Next problem is, they only sent over one degree. They're supposed to send a degree to the Korean government and to the consulate, right?
Same with everything else. Everything has to be sent doubly, right? |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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We have only ever needed the original OR an embassy certified copy for immigration purposes.
The education office doesn't need an embassy certified copy. Just use your copy machine for theirs.
You have the original if you need it (immigration just looks at it and hands it immediately back to you). They don't keep it.
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