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Zutronius

Joined: 16 Apr 2007 Location: Suncheon
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:28 pm Post subject: Not being paid for extra summer classes |
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I work at a Public High School and and it says in my contract that I will hold extra classes during the summer vacation. My coteacher said the school will not pay me for these classes because they take place during my vacation time.
If I am holding summer classes during the break, does that not mean I am doing extra work and therefore they have to pay me for such work?
I'm a little confused on the issue and want to clarify things. If they owe me for the extra classes I want to make sure I get paid for them. |
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xCustomx

Joined: 06 Jan 2006
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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Usually you are not entitled to the same amount of vacation time that Korean teachers have. Nearly all public school teachers have to run a camp for 1-3 weeks. The rest of the time is your official vacation.
There was a thread a couple weeks ago about getting pay for camps and most public school teachers don't get paid extra. |
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Zutronius

Joined: 16 Apr 2007 Location: Suncheon
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the info. |
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ilovebdt

Joined: 03 Jun 2005 Location: Nr Seoul
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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 5:12 am Post subject: |
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Hey
When I did vacation classes at my high school I didn't get paid any extra. But, the Korean teachers were also doing them aswell and they didn't get paid extra either.
However, if you do any classes in addition to your scheduled/contracted class hours in the week then you are entitled to overtime pay.
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Draz

Joined: 27 Jun 2007 Location: Land of Morning Clam
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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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ilovebdt wrote: |
But, the Korean teachers were also doing them aswell and they didn't get paid extra either. |
Really? The students are paying for these extra classes, no? Where's the money going? |
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reimund
Joined: 01 Oct 2007
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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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Is the question about getting paid at all for doing the summer classes, or getting paid on top of the normal salary we're supposed to receive? |
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xCustomx

Joined: 06 Jan 2006
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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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Draz wrote: |
ilovebdt wrote: |
But, the Korean teachers were also doing them aswell and they didn't get paid extra either. |
Really? The students are paying for these extra classes, no? Where's the money going? |
I asked this question to Dain Bae at the GEPIK orientation last year and she said that even if the students are paying money for the classes, the teacher should not receive it. She said the money should go into the school's English fund |
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R. S. Refugee

Joined: 29 Sep 2004 Location: Shangra La, ROK
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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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reimund wrote: |
Is the question about getting paid at all for doing the summer classes, or getting paid on top of the normal salary we're supposed to receive? |
What they're discussing is whether a PS teacher should get paid extra (in addition to their regular monthly salary) for doing the so-called English camp at their own school. The GEPIK contract does not provide any additional pay for doing this camp at your own school -- just your regular monthly salary. |
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cruisemonkey

Joined: 04 Jul 2005 Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 10:32 pm Post subject: Re: Not being paid for extra summer classes |
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Zutronius wrote: |
I work at a Public High School and and it says in my contract that I will hold extra classes during the summer vacation. My coteacher said the school will not pay me for these classes because they take place during my vacation time. |
You're a twit!  |
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jkelly80

Joined: 13 Jun 2007 Location: you boys like mexico?
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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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IF you teach more than 22 hours at a camp (or whatever it may say in the contract) THEN you are entitled to overtime. You are obligated to teach up to 28 hours/week if they ask you but you will get your 20k/hour OT pay. The money the school receives for the camp is presumably something they already account for when the pay scale for NSET's are drawn up. Most English camps are a bonus for the school b/c our pay actually comes from the central office (this is for SMOE I'm not sure what GEPIK does).
Whether or not that money is put into anything beyond the principals' "I'm a Korean boss therefore I'm a demi-god" fund is anyone's guess. |
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R. S. Refugee

Joined: 29 Sep 2004 Location: Shangra La, ROK
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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:35 pm Post subject: Re: Not being paid for extra summer classes |
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cruisemonkey wrote: |
Zutronius wrote: |
I work at a Public High School and and it says in my contract that I will hold extra classes during the summer vacation. My coteacher said the school will not pay me for these classes because they take place during my vacation time. |
You're a twit!  |
I actually don't understand why this insult is here. The OP was simply making a request for informaton, and unlike many on this forum, he was not obnoxious and his behavior in no way invited insults as far as I can see.
Having a bad day? |
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Zutronius

Joined: 16 Apr 2007 Location: Suncheon
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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks again for the info. It's a shame some people on these forums have to resort to insults as answers. |
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cruisemonkey

Joined: 04 Jul 2005 Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:05 am Post subject: |
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A public school teacher who can't use the proper words; and is so 'out to lunch' as to understand only part of their contract is a twit.  |
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nomad-ish

Joined: 08 Oct 2007 Location: On the bottom of the food chain
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:15 am Post subject: |
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xCustomx wrote: |
Draz wrote: |
ilovebdt wrote: |
But, the Korean teachers were also doing them aswell and they didn't get paid extra either. |
Really? The students are paying for these extra classes, no? Where's the money going? |
I asked this question to Dain Bae at the GEPIK orientation last year and she said that even if the students are paying money for the classes, the teacher should not receive it. She said the money should go into the school's English fund |
English fund? does anyone here actually see any money from that? |
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xCustomx

Joined: 06 Jan 2006
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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nomad-ish wrote: |
English fund? does anyone here actually see any money from that? |
That's my point. Though I was told that there is an extra couple hundred dollars I can use for my camp, so my school is giving my a credit card to go out and purchase supplies |
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