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Cheongju cancels exchange program for Japanese students.
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Smee



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:02 am    Post subject: Cheongju cancels exchange program for Japanese students. Reply with quote

Should say "Cheongju," not "Chongju" in the article.
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The education board chief of Chongju said in a faxed message Tuesday that the decision was made in consideration to national sentiments in South Korea following the Japanese government�s move to mention the islets, known as Takeshima in Japan and Dokdo in South Korea, for the first time in a teaching guideline for junior high schools. ��It is regrettable that a political and diplomatic matter like Takeshima disrupts a friendly event between the two countries� middle school students,�� said Toshitaka Nakagawa, head of Tottori�s education board. Under the program, 33 students from Tottori city were supposed to visit Chongju from July 29 for five days to stay with South Korean host families.


http://www.japantoday.com/category/national/view/s-korean-city-cancels-exchange-with-japanese-children

http://briandeutsch.blogspot.com/2008/07/cheongju-cancels-homestay-program-for.html
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Scotticus



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know, the sheer size of the beef protests were maddening, but I must say, the K's have truly raised the bar with this Dokdo thing.

So, in retaliation for a Japanese school book, Korea/Koreans are:

1) Tearing animals apart/beating them to death with hammers/cutting them open and eating their insides raw.

2) Banning the advertisements of Japanese companies on the subway.

3) And now they're punishing some poor kids who wanted to visit the country by stopping the program they were coming here through.

At this rate Korea is going to start printing maps that omit Japan's existence, or perhaps staging book burnings where any book that mentions Japan in any way is put to the torch.
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Gatsby



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I were a Korean, I would be deeply ashamed for my country.

Just being here as a FT, I am ashamed for you, Korea.

But I don't think Koreans are ashamed. If you raise an issue like this, they laugh. It seems like anything that makes a Korean uncomfortable, if they don't start shouting at you, they just laugh. Ha ha ha. End of discussion. End of thinking. Time to change the subject.

They completely fail to grasp that such behavior, such attitudes, have real consequences in the real world, and that the people they are directing their hatred toward have real feelings.

It is bad enough to hate adults who are not Koreans, but to treat children like this is totally inexcusable. On the other hand, it is even sadder to contemplate how these Japanese students might have been treated had they come to Korea. And the acts of hatred they would have seen.

And sending notice of cancellation by a fax! Now there's etiquette for you. I hope all the Korean students of the school will have better manners and write letters of apology to their Japanese student counterparts.

I pray to God this younger generation we are teaching will take a different attitude to the world when they grow up, or better yet, now.

I hope they do this, because it is the right thing to do. But I also hope they do this, because it is in their own self-interest.

I predict that the consequences of the mad cow madness and this Dokdo madness will reverberate for years to come. The consequences could easily last the eight years of the next U.S. presidential administration. One day Korea will need help from other countries, as it has for the first 50 years since its liberation from Japan. Who will help? Where are Korea's friends?


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Smee



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, you all remember one of the last Dokdo flare-ups, when an Incheon school had the students create anti-Japanese drawings to be displayed around local subway stations.

http://aog.2y.net/forums/index.php?s=ed6ded091854445a05c0d75c03af53f7&showtopic=1550

http://aog.2y.net/forums/index.php?s=ed6ded091854445a05c0d75c03af53f7&showtopic=1558
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Ilsanman



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Today's newspaper said 'Japanese cars, get out!!' on the front.

Ban condoms. Cars just seem like the next logical step.
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maddog



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Racist cnuts.

What if the UK or US decide to ban all muslims form our respective countries because of the war on terror? Racism, pure and simple.

MD
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cheeseface



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My wife, her friends and all of my co-workers are deeply embarrassed by the people protesting about this issue.......
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Adventurer



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let us put things in perspective. The majority of teachers here are not from Sweden. They are from the United States of America. How have Americans fared when it comes to have the necessary savoir when it comes the world, ethnic relations, and their own history? People who watch Jay Leno know that many Americans have no clue about their own history, and close to 20% don't even know where the country is on the map.

The U.S. Government wouldn't even allow Cat Stevens in the country. He was on the no-fly list. Even kids have been on it. A moderate Islamic scholar who teaches at a Swiss university can't even come though he was invited by an American institution to come and speak. A Canadian professor who wrote a paper about LSD in the 1970s was banned from the U.S. Many Canadian political activists were banned.

In the 1980s, when Bush senior was president, and he was complaining about Japan and their trade policies, an American citizen in retaliation killed a Chinese man. 300,000 soldiers are in Iraq based on lies. Many Americans still believe some of the 9/11 attackers were from Iraq. Which is not true. The Korean Government manufactured this crisis, because the government is in trouble. A Korean national was shot in North Korea which is embarassing, the meat thing was also embarassing, so they used the tool of waving the flag. The Republicans used flag waving very successfully to shut debate until people got tired of it. It is easier to manipulate Koreans, since Korea has less scientific, objective minds out there in the media. Dishonesty in the media and in academia is so prevalent.

But, remember, things are not so great in our countries... Korea is more of a primitive country when it comes to the ease in which you can brainwash a society. However, the US is worse than some other Western countries when it comes to that due to the lack of education about geography, history, and politics. England also bombed this global geography test along with the U.S. Many people in England don't even know that Churchill was a real person.

That said, the Korean Government has been a disgrace in allowing people to throw eggs at the embassy of a sovereign country, and those who cancelled the exchange with the Japanese students are playing politics with academics. That's not acceptable behavior.
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Passions



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adventurer wrote:
Let us put things in perspective. The majority of teachers here are not from Sweden. They are from the United States of America. How have Americans fared when it comes to have the necessary savoir when it comes the world, ethnic relations, and their own history? People who watch Jay Leno know that many Americans have no clue about their own history, and close to 20% don't even know where the country is on the map.

The U.S. Government wouldn't even allow Cat Stevens in the country. He was on the no-fly list. Even kids have been on it. A moderate Islamic scholar who teaches at a Swiss university can't even come though he was invited by an American institution to come and speak. A Canadian professor who wrote a paper about LSD in the 1970s was banned from the U.S. Many Canadian political activists were banned.

In the 1980s, when Bush senior was president, and he was complaining about Japan and their trade policies, an American citizen in retaliation killed a Chinese man. 300,000 soldiers are in Iraq based on lies. Many Americans still believe some of the 9/11 attackers were from Iraq. Which is not true. The Korean Government manufactured this crisis, because the government is in trouble. A Korean national was shot in North Korea which is embarassing, the meat thing was also embarassing, so they used the tool of waving the flag. The Republicans used flag waving very successfully to shut debate until people got tired of it. It is easier to manipulate Koreans, since Korea has less scientific, objective minds out there in the media. Dishonesty in the media and in academia is so prevalent.

But, remember, things are not so great in our countries... Korea is more of a primitive country when it comes to the ease in which you can brainwash a society. However, the US is worse than some other Western countries when it comes to that due to the lack of education about geography, history, and politics. England also bombed this global geography test along with the U.S. Many people in England don't even know that Churchill was a real person.

That said, the Korean Government has been a disgrace in allowing people to throw eggs at the embassy of a sovereign country, and those who cancelled the exchange with the Japanese students are playing politics with academics. That's not acceptable behavior.


Oh, hush you. Go outside and play with friends.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is why, as an American, I'm slow to point fingers and do what I can to tolerate Korea's sometimes ill-infomred nationalism. Expats from chill countries like Ireland or New Zealand are much more in a position to bitch, I'll grant you.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gatsby wrote:
If I were a Korean, I would be deeply ashamed for my country.

Just being here as a FT, I am ashamed for you, Korea.


Duly noted. Now back to Let's Go 4.
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yingwenlaoshi



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

indytrucks wrote:
Gatsby wrote:
If I were a Korean, I would be deeply ashamed for my country.

Just being here as a FT, I am ashamed for you, Korea.


Duly noted. Now back to Let's Go 4.


You know what Let's Go 4 is?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PeterDragon wrote:
This is why, as an American, I'm slow to point fingers and do what I can to tolerate Korea's sometimes ill-infomred nationalism. Expats from chill countries like Ireland or New Zealand are much more in a position to bitch, I'll grant you.


Say whatever you want. It's a FREE country BECAUSE we, (USA! Very Happy ), have kept it a free country with the blood, sweat, and toil of our soldiers. Wink


Ireland and NZ are "chill" countries? What does that mean?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scotticus wrote:
You know, the sheer size of the beef protests were maddening, but I must say, the K's have truly raised the bar with this Dokdo thing.

So, in retaliation for a Japanese school book, Korea/Koreans are:

1) Tearing animals apart/beating them to death with hammers/cutting them open and eating their insides raw.

2) Banning the advertisements of Japanese companies on the subway.

3) And now they're punishing some poor kids who wanted to visit the country by stopping the program they were coming here through.

At this rate Korea is going to start printing maps that omit Japan's existence, or perhaps staging book burnings where any book that mentions Japan in any way is put to the torch.


They've lost all perspective.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korea once again demonstrates it can beat up the crippled kid on the block.
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