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In Korea now, SO confused about my F4 visa
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UCLAgirl



Joined: 06 May 2009

PostPosted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 5:23 pm    Post subject: In Korea now, SO confused about my F4 visa Reply with quote

Hi everyone,

I got an F4 visa in the States, so I have the little thing in my passport book. I know I need to go to the immigration office in Seoul, and all I was told when I got my visa was to bring this little form they gave me to the Mokdong office showing that my mom renounced her Korean citizenship. Now I am hearing that it is much more complicated and that i should have brought all the documents I used to get the visa, to Korea. What exactly am I going to Mokdong for, and what the heck am I supposed to bring there?! I am so utterly confused. I'd appreciate any help.
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andrewchon



Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't haven to do anything like that, nor did anyone tell me to.
I think you are taking the step of converting Tourist visa to an F4 visa,
but you already have an F-4 visa, no?

Merry Christmas
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UCLAgirl



Joined: 06 May 2009

PostPosted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No it's actually to get the domestic resident/registration card? i called and i think i got it mostly figured out now...did u have to get this?
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bcoral99



Joined: 26 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, the alien card will allow your employer to enroll you in getting pension and health insurance. Everything is tied into that card. If you wanted to stay longer u just renew that card and don't have to worry about ur visa.
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skim234



Joined: 02 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you already have your F4, I don't know what you have to bring other than your American passport, which they have to send in order for you to get your ARC.

I got my F4 visa while in Korea (a huge pain in the ass asking my dad to e-mail me old documents, coupled with several visits to the Mokdong office).

I assume you already showed documents regarding your hoju, permanent address of family from Korea, etc.?

A lot of the documents you need can be provided by the local Korean embassy in the US. My dad had to sign a paper renouncing his Korean citizenship, which he e-mailed and I then brought with me to the immigration office.
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t1m1ty



Joined: 24 May 2009
Location: Bundang

PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought I had to take a lot of paperwork to the Mokdong (actually it's in Omokgyo) immigration office. I was told I needed all the documents I needed for my f4 visa back in the states again from both my parents. I went to the immi office with the docs only to be told all I needed was my birth certificate and proof that one of my parents was a US citizen (copy of my mother's naturalization paper). That was it! I received my arc card and my passport (needed as well) within 7 days in the mail
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doublepitch



Joined: 06 Dec 2009
Location: USA

PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi -

I'm hoping you guys can help me.

I am supposed to leave Korea on December 27th (next Sunday), and I went to the Atlanta Consulate to get my F4 visa today. There I learned that they no longer accept the old hojuks and I need two other things from both my mom's side and my dad's side.

That's not the important issue though.

The lady at the consulate stated that I CANNOT get my F4 once I'm in Korea. She said I NEED to get it here before leaving.

Also, since I booked a ONE-WAY ticket, she said that they would not let me board since I have no visa.

That problem can be solved, since I can just book another ticket back before I leave. I can cancel that one (even if they fine me).

However, has anybody else done that? Gone to Korea on a round-trip ticket or a one-way ticket and THEN gotten their F4 visa in Korea?

I have all the other necessary documents. I'm just missing the �ki bon jung myong seo� and �ga jok gwan gye jung myong seo� (korean family census registry) which I can get in Korea.

If anybody could help I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks in advance!
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VFRinterceptor



Joined: 22 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:47 pm    Post subject: Re: In Korea now, SO confused about my F4 visa Reply with quote

UCLAgirl wrote:
Hi everyone,

I got an F4 visa in the States, so I have the little thing in my passport book. I know I need to go to the immigration office in Seoul, and all I was told when I got my visa was to bring this little form they gave me to the Mokdong office showing that my mom renounced her Korean citizenship. Now I am hearing that it is much more complicated and that i should have brought all the documents I used to get the visa, to Korea. What exactly am I going to Mokdong for, and what the heck am I supposed to bring there?! I am so utterly confused. I'd appreciate any help.
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skim234



Joined: 02 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

doublepitch wrote:
Hi -

I'm hoping you guys can help me.

I am supposed to leave Korea on December 27th (next Sunday), and I went to the Atlanta Consulate to get my F4 visa today. There I learned that they no longer accept the old hojuks and I need two other things from both my mom's side and my dad's side.

That's not the important issue though.

The lady at the consulate stated that I CANNOT get my F4 once I'm in Korea. She said I NEED to get it here before leaving.

Also, since I booked a ONE-WAY ticket, she said that they would not let me board since I have no visa.

That problem can be solved, since I can just book another ticket back before I leave. I can cancel that one (even if they fine me).

However, has anybody else done that? Gone to Korea on a round-trip ticket or a one-way ticket and THEN gotten their F4 visa in Korea?

I have all the other necessary documents. I'm just missing the �ki bon jung myong seo� and �ga jok gwan gye jung myong seo� (korean family census registry) which I can get in Korea.

If anybody could help I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks in advance!


I just said in my first post on this thread that I got my F4 in Korea. I also flew to Korea with a one-way ticket from Asiana Airlines.

Just bring the necessary documents and you'll be fine. The person at the Consulate is an idiot if she's insisting that it's impossible to get an F4 in Korea, as well as being able to fly out there on a one-way.
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doublepitch



Joined: 06 Dec 2009
Location: USA

PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been reading up on how to apply for the F4 for months, and when I finally went there today she stated that I couldn't apply for it in Korea. It kind of caught me off guard, because she kept insisiting that if I did that it would not be given to me.

Now that I know I will be able to get it, I feel a lot better. Thank you very much to everyone for the information.

Should I just buy another one-way ticket back from Korea to the States (refundable)? Just in case they don't let me go?

I'm flying Korean Air, and when I called them today and asked them if they would let me board the plane (I told them I was visiting family friends for about a month), they said they would most likely not let me on the plane if I had a one-way ticket and no visa.
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skim234



Joined: 02 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

doublepitch wrote:
I've been reading up on how to apply for the F4 for months, and when I finally went there today she stated that I couldn't apply for it in Korea. It kind of caught me off guard, because she kept insisiting that if I did that it would not be given to me.

Now that I know I will be able to get it, I feel a lot better. Thank you very much to everyone for the information.

Should I just buy another one-way ticket back from Korea to the States (refundable)? Just in case they don't let me go?

I'm flying Korean Air, and when I called them today and asked them if they would let me board the plane (I told them I was visiting family friends for about a month), they said they would most likely not let me on the plane if I had a one-way ticket and no visa.


Go with Asiana... Also, just to make sure I'd call immigration office here to make sure.

I did my F4 application stuff in early-October. Perhaps they changed the rules afterward?
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Lemon84



Joined: 07 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

doublepitch wrote:
Hi -

The lady at the consulate stated that I CANNOT get my F4 once I'm in Korea. She said I NEED to get it here before leaving.

Also, since I booked a ONE-WAY ticket, she said that they would not let me board since I have no visa.

Thanks in advance!


I live in New Zealand, so things could be a bit different for Americans. But when I spoke to a staff in Korean embassy here in New Zealand, I was told that i can just fly off to korea with no visa and get my F4 after I arrive in Korea. However that could be because New Zealanders don't require visa in order to visit korea for up to 90 days. Btw, this conversation took place in November.
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Lemon84



Joined: 07 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

skim234 wrote:
A lot of the documents you need can be provided by the local Korean embassy in the US. My dad had to sign a paper renouncing his Korean citizenship, which he e-mailed and I then brought with me to the immigration office.


I had to send my documents to the embassy to apply for my F4 visa. But nobody told me that my parent/s have to renounce their korean citizenship. I was under the impression that as long as I have renounced korean citizenship, I would be eligible for F4 visa? Can somebody help me out plz?
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skim234



Joined: 02 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lemon84 wrote:
skim234 wrote:
A lot of the documents you need can be provided by the local Korean embassy in the US. My dad had to sign a paper renouncing his Korean citizenship, which he e-mailed and I then brought with me to the immigration office.


I had to send my documents to the embassy to apply for my F4 visa. But nobody told me that my parent/s have to renounce their korean citizenship. I was under the impression that as long as I have renounced korean citizenship, I would be eligible for F4 visa? Can somebody help me out plz?


Were you born in Korea? I wasn't, therefore it was my father who needed to renounce. If you were born in Korea/were once a Korean citizen, then it probably is YOU who must renounce.
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hoopslam



Joined: 19 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

skim234 wrote:
Lemon84 wrote:
skim234 wrote:
A lot of the documents you need can be provided by the local Korean embassy in the US. My dad had to sign a paper renouncing his Korean citizenship, which he e-mailed and I then brought with me to the immigration office.


I had to send my documents to the embassy to apply for my F4 visa. But nobody told me that my parent/s have to renounce their korean citizenship. I was under the impression that as long as I have renounced korean citizenship, I would be eligible for F4 visa? Can somebody help me out plz?


Were you born in Korea? I wasn't, therefore it was my father who needed to renounce. If you were born in Korea/were once a Korean citizen, then it probably is YOU who must renounce.


Not true. I was born in Korea and not only did I have to renounce my citizenship, so did one of my parents. This was probably because I gained my US citizenship before I turned 18 (as my parents got their citizenship). Therefore, I never took a citizenship test separately. If you took your citizenship test separate from your parents, they may not require that one of your parents renounce their citizenship.
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