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[caniff]

What do you think of him as a candidate for president? I start this thread with the hope of hearing other posters' opinions as to why Americans should or should not select him over McCain. We've had a lot of threads about him recently, but I am hoping that some others here could break it down to the nitty-gritty (from their own perspectives, of course).

My vote is precious even though it is statistically inconsequential. I am leaning heavily towards Obama, but could I be doing the wrong thing by voting for him? Thanks in advance for your thoughts.

[bacasper]

I think it would be more of the same. In fact, it may even be worse because the high expectations of "change" which some hold about him may serve as a smokescreen for ramming through unpalatable measures that more overtly right-wing lawmakers may not be able to get away with.

For example, Obama just voted for the telecom immunity bill, not only getting the telcos off the hook for their past illegal disclosures to the government of customers' logs, but also for any FUTURE such activity. In other words, now it is just wholesale government intrusion with no chack on it whatsoever.

This system of voting for the lesser evil, or evil lesser as the case may be, is no way to make improvement. A new way must be forged.

Statistically, your one vote is much more consequential if cast for a third party candidate.

[contrarian]

Electing an empty suit like Obama just because he's blacl and the US wants to show how nice it is, would be a disaster.

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[mises]

[mithridates]

[bacasper]

[Tiger Beer]

Obama has run one of the efficient, well-run campaigns perhaps in all time...and his timeliness to things is just, well, impressive.

McCain seems to have disaters every few weeks within his campaign group. He has way too much going against him, he reminds me of Bob Dole. For one, he looks and speaks and acts like a geezer. Sorry, he was okay 12 years ago, but now? The Republicans REALLY tried to find a better one, and the primary was a testament to that. In the end, they realized they had no one, and it was kind of a 'well lets give the geezer a shot, at least there isn't anything overtly negative about him like the other Republicans who were running'.

McCain also has NO PLAN. NONE. I haven't heard of him speak for anything except the '100 years in Iraq' and he wouldn't change a thing plan, let's just run with that one, plan. What kind of a plan is that? His plan is to DO NOTHING? Just build 100-year bases as a way to ignore it and make it go away?

Obama, on the other hand, is very energizing and actually sees things that need to be addressed. Things like 30 million uninsured, appaling education, the need to focus on Afghanistan, the need to rebuild strong alliances with people who were once supportive of us, the need to find Osama Bin Ladin even if its in areas that Bush is too reluctant to go - Pakistan/Afghanistan border, etc.

I know some people are scared because it all sounds too good to be true, but for me, I'd much rather have someone with ideas and thoughts and willing to do things, then McCain with the 'do nothing' plan.

McCain doesn't bring anything to the table whatsoever. He also sounds ridiculous when he speaks, much like Bush. Guaranteed 4 or 8 more years of 'no policies, no plans, no changes' and ever spiraling downhill if he actually manages to get elected somehow, just doesn't not sound like a good option. I think Americans need to expect a bit more from their politicians.

[ReeseDog]

Sexism runs deeper in America than does racism. Witness the fact that black males were granted suffrage before women. This is precisely why Obama beat Hillary. Males win over females.

Whites win over blacks. The rich win over the poor. McCain is a rich white male. Obama will lose.

And so, too, will America, in the end.






All that being said, I do believe McCain to be the better choice for the office, though.

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[Milwaukiedave]

[Kuros]

[Ya-ta Boy]

[blaseblasphemener]

McCain was absolutely the wrong choice for the Republicans. They would have stood a much better chance of winning if they had ran Romney.

It's time for America to have an intelligent president again. Obama will mop the floor with McCain, I predict.

[Kuros]