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KAMAKAZI
Joined: 14 Mar 2008
Location: Jamshil
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 Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:53 am Post subject: Other than E2 |
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Hi
Basically, everyone knows E2 visas are for teaching, F2's and F5's are for married foreigners who work, but what is the type of visa for just a regular job other than teaching and can North Americans get this type of visa fairly easy?
My friend was offered a NON-teaching job at a hagwon, basically as a secretary or something (She is fluent in Korean and English) but she is Canadian. She will not be teaching, so would a different visa apply?
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Spliff's Son
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| Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 2:08 am Post subject: |
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KAMAKAZI
Joined: 14 Mar 2008
Location: Jamshil
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| Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 4:11 am Post subject: |
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ok. so the F4 covers Canadians wanting to work here doing jobs OTHER than teaching?
I always wondered this. Can a hagwon hire a foreigner, say Canadian, and give him another so-called "job-title" when doing the paperwork to immi under an F4 application ? Techincally, he wouldnt be a teacher and wouldnt need any credentials etc. correct?
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 4:16 am Post subject: |
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| KAMAKAZI wrote: |
ok. so the F4 covers Canadians wanting to work here doing jobs OTHER than teaching?
I always wondered this. Can a hagwon hire a foreigner, say Canadian, and give him another so-called "job-title" when doing the paperwork to immi ? Techincally, he wouldnt be a teacher and wouldnt need any credentials etc. correct? |
F4 is for those of Korean decent who have lost their citizenship by naturalization or by birth to Korean citizens who are abroad.
Your girl would need an E7 (assuming is does NOT have Korean parents).
It is unlikely that she would get one to work as a receptionist in a hakwon.
(They usually require either a masters degree or tons of experience in a specialized field.
so, short answer to your question, "Can a hagwon hire a foreigner, say Canadian, and give him another so-called "job-title" when doing the paperwork to immi ?" = NO chance in hell.
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KAMAKAZI
Joined: 14 Mar 2008
Location: Jamshil
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| Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 4:40 am Post subject: |
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| KAMAKAZI wrote: |
ok. so the F4 covers Canadians wanting to work here doing jobs OTHER than teaching?
I always wondered this. Can a hagwon hire a foreigner, say Canadian, and give him another so-called "job-title" when doing the paperwork to immi ? Techincally, he wouldnt be a teacher and wouldnt need any credentials etc. correct? |
F4 is for those of Korean decent who have lost their citizenship by naturalization or by birth to Korean citizens who are abroad.
Your girl would need an E7 (assuming is does NOT have Korean parents).
It is unlikely that she would get one to work as a receptionist in a hakwon.
(They usually require either a masters degree or tons of experience in a specialized field.
so, short answer to your question, "Can a hagwon hire a foreigner, say Canadian, and give him another so-called "job-title" when doing the paperwork to immi ?" = NO chance in hell.
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Ah, ok. Thans for the info!
Well, what if a native Canadian/American tried applying for the E7 to work at a hagwon, under some bogus job title ? Isnt it up to the boss (hagwon) to judge a persons credentials and not immi ? After all, they are the ones paying. |
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gteacher
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| Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 6:44 am Post subject: |
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[quote="KAMAKAZI"]
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NO chance in hell.
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Ah, ok. Thans for the info!
Well, what if a native Canadian/American tried applying for the E7 to work at a hagwon, under some bogus job title ? Isnt it up to the boss (hagwon) to judge a persons credentials and not immi ? After all, they are the ones paying. |
E7 -requirements:
Specially designated Activities (E-7)
Application Eligibility
Employees under a contract with the public/private organization
Teacher of the foreign school or foreign language reviser of the public/private organization
Those offering technology, skill or expertise to a public/private organization
Those employed as special position that are considered to be able to contribute to the national competitiveness
Managers or coaches that are invited by the sports organization, and are proven to be able to contribute to promotion of sports
Administrators hired by a foreign legation in Korea or foreign organization
Core employees of a corporation with inward foreign direct investment, a branch of foreign corporation or a foreign company (Not applicable to those without an agreement of transfer from the head of present place of work)
Those that seek employment as a staff of Korean transportation corporation such as regular ferry or the Geomgang Mountain Tour ship
High technology such as information technology
Those seeking engage in the field of IT (information technology), e-business, BT (bio-technology), NT (nano-technology), new composite material, transportation facilities, digital appliances, or environmental energy in the domestic corporation with the recommendation of the Minister of related Ministries.(Whose period of stay is within 90 days)
- Field of IT: the Minister of Information and Communication
- Others: the Minister of Commerce, Industry and Energy..
So to put it simply:
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| NO chance in hell. |
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blackjack
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| Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 7:15 am Post subject: |
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| However if it was a kiwi we can get what is called a C4 (??), a working holiday visa (but we can't teach english). Not sure of the regs |
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ttompatz
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| However if it was a kiwi we can get what is called a C4 (??), a working holiday visa (but we can't teach english). Not sure of the regs |
Actually, the working holiday visa is the H1 and yes, NZers, Aussies and Canuks can get one.
The applicant must be under 30 and there are a few other hoops to jump through and a few jobs that are forbidden (like working as a teacher, working in a hakwon, working in a brothel, etc).
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blackjack
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry it is the h1 the c4 is the short term working visa (models and such)
here is some background for the h1 (taken from the immigration site)
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Working Holiday VISA allows Temporary Employment for Personnel from Countries established "Agreement or MOU (Memorandum of Understanding) on Tourism Employment", and whose main Purpose of Stay is Sightseeing, but want to earn Money to meet the Expenses.
In Korea, Tourism Employment (H-1) is the Working Holiday Visa. ◦Countries established "Agreement or MOU on Tourism Employment" with Korea are Australia, Canada, Japan, and New Zealand. Personnel (18 ~ 25 Years old. 18 ~30 for Australia & New Zealand Personnels) from agreed Countries can be granted with Working Holiday (H-1) Visa, which permits 1-Year of Stay, at the Korean Embassy, by submitting the following Documents ☞ Required Documents : ① Round-Trip Flight Ticket , ② Documents proving Possession of Expenses for certain Period (3 Month) ③ Plan of Sightseeing & Activities, etc ◦
Since the primary Purpose of Working Holiday(H-1) Visa is Sightseeing, Holders cannot concentrate on Employment. Also, long-Term Employment (more than 3 Months) at a single Business is restricted. It should be aware than Employment to the following Jobs is restricted as well. ① Working as Waiter, Dancer, Singer, Musician, or a Acrobat at amusement places ② Foreign Language Teaching Status (E-2) ③ Education, Training other than regular Korean Courses (3 Months) ④ Activities against Idea of Agreement (News Coverage, Religion, Research, Technical Instruction, etc) |
so it looks like up to 25 years old for canadians |
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