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Big_Bird
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 Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 12:55 am Post subject: Deadly fats: why are we still eating them? |
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Deadly fats: why are we still eating them?
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They are the cosy, friendly foods that present us with a rosy image of our childhoods: Quality Street chocolates and Angel Delight dessert; Horlicks instant night-time drink and Knorr stock cubes.
As brands, they endure. Not quite as cutting edge as their more sophisticated and modern supermarket-shelf counterparts, perhaps. And certainly not as healthy. Because the truth is that some of the leading comfort foods we remember from our youth are doing their very best to kill us.
The culprit is one item, usually tucked away in tiny lettering on the ingredients label. It's called hydrogenated vegetable oil. It sounds harmless enough, but it is one of the most dangerous products ever to be mashed into the food we eat.
Food scares are, of course, nothing new, but hydrogenated vegetable oil (HVO) elevates health risk to a whole new level. Recent scientific research suggests that it may be responsible for an unknown, but certainly very large, number of heart attacks. |
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| Given the weight of scientific evidence that has now built up against trans-fats, there is an overwhelming case for the Government to ban their use. This has already happened in Denmark, where legislation removing HVO from the food chain was introduced five years ago. Since then, the rate of heart disease among Danes has dropped by a staggering 40 per cent. The only European country to follow suit since then is Switzerland, which introduced a ban this April. Britain has no plans to take action, instead being content to leave the industry to get its own house in order. |
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Having researched the topic thoroughly, Maggie Stanfield is convinced that the only safe amount of HVO we should be eating is no HVO at all. "When we eat trans-fats, our cells get confused. They identify the fat as unsaturated � it comes from vegetable oil, after all � but because of the industrial process involved, they can't handle the fat as they would a truly unsaturated one.
"Instead, HVO actually changes the cell structure, making the wall soft, and acts like a pincer, raising bad cholesterol on the one hand, lowering good on the other. So the gap is widened, making us more vulnerable to heart disease."
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mindmetoo
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:48 am Post subject: |
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| A 40% drop in heart disease in 5 years is an amazing, stunning figure and I'm rather skeptical. Where is this figure coming from? Is it coming from the book? Is the book using peer reviewed research? |
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sojourner1
Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 3:18 am Post subject: |
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It's true and that's why my recipes get real butter instead of shortening. And that's why I use liquid oil such as corn and olive oil when grilling and frying instead of shortening. My dad and both grandpas ate tons of shortening and it's obvious why my one and only dad had his 1st heart attack at 36 and one of my grandpa keeled over of heart attack at 42. There arteries were clogged due to shortening. They lived on fried food and were sedentary where they didn't get exercise, travel, eat healthy foods, or do anything, but sit all their lives. Needless to say, they're all dead and my oldest brother who is only 40 looks like he's on his way out too.
Me, I have quite a different lifestyle and hope I don't have to suffer like they did and then lose at an early age. I'm very sure this shortening is dangerous just as smoking and excessive drinking can be. The drinking part is almost unavoidable if you're lonesome, in a drinking country, and needing a change of reality fix. I especially like a fix when I'm working a heavy schedule like now which is probably awful on the ol' ticker. |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:24 am Post subject: |
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| New York City recently became trans fat-free. |
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Kikomom
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: them thar hills--Penna, USA--Zippy is my kid, the teacher in ROK. You can call me Kiko
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:08 am Post subject: |
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| We spend hundreds of billions of $ treating diseases and so little preventing them. In addition to HVO, providing vitiman d supplements to people in Northern climates would dramatically and cheaply cut cancer rates and others. |
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mindmetoo
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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| We spend hundreds of billions of $ treating diseases and so little preventing them. In addition to HVO, providing vitiman d supplements to people in Northern climates would dramatically and cheaply cut cancer rates and others. |
To be fair we do spend billions teaching people how to prevent disease. No one much listens. |
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Bigfeet
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Why? Because corporations run the US. I guess this has always been true though, more or less. |
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mindmetoo
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Bigfeet wrote: |
| Why? Because corporations run the US. I guess this has always been true though, more or less. |
People can not eat a big mac and eat an apple. People have this choice. |
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Fishead soup
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Location: Korea
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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Cook with Olive oil. That's what I do. My blood pressure used to be 180/100 now it's 110/70. I still eat Sam gyup sal at least twice a week.
I love spicy barbequed chicken too. |
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R. S. Refugee
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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I've been aware of the dangers of trans fat for a very long time. It is becoming somewhat easier to avoid.
One of my favorite things to buy at Costco back in the home country was marinated artichoke hearts. The marinating oil mixture contained the dreaded "partially hydrogenated" in the ingredients list. But eventually they dropped the that trans fat element from it and they tasted just as good.
I was so glad to see the familiar huge jars of these aritchoke hearts in Costco when I first came to Korea.
But unfortunately, many of my favorite foods to buy at Costco (like marinated artichoke hearts) have been dropped over the past 3 years that I've been here. Not too popular with the Koreans, I guess.
And on Korean packaging nowadays I sometimes see labeling that indicates no "트 렌 스" fat or something like that.
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sojourner1
Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Fishead soup wrote: |
Cook with Olive oil. That's what I do. My blood pressure used to be 180/100 now it's 110/70. I still eat Sam gyup sal at least twice a week.
I love spicy barbequed chicken too. |
How did you get the awfully high blood pressure to come down? I've had high blood pressure for a couple years now around 145/95. When I'm using a stair climbing machine in a gym like I was doing for a couple months this year in the states, I was getting much better readings of 127 to 135 over 78 to 85 and felt great, so I'm going to get back on that as I quit 2 months ago. This morning it was 147/104 which is bad. A Korean co-teacher has a small monitor that he uses over and over regularly in the office. I found out, because I knew something was not right since late 06 where I have a slight malaise feeling and dull pains in the top left of my head from high blood pressure. I know when my blood pressure is good, because that's when I feel good.
The bad fats as well as alcohol and cigarettes are a huge risk factor. |
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Fishead soup
Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Fishead soup wrote: |
Cook with Olive oil. That's what I do. My blood pressure used to be 180/100 now it's 110/70. I still eat Sam gyup sal at least twice a week.
I love spicy barbequed chicken too. |
How did you get the awfully high blood pressure to come down? I've had high blood pressure for a couple years now around 145/95. When I'm using a stair climbing machine in a gym like I was doing for a couple months this year in the states, I was getting much better readings of 127 to 135 over 78 to 85 and felt great, so I'm going to get back on that as I quit 2 months ago. This morning it was 147/104 which is bad. A Korean co-teacher has a small monitor that he uses over and over regularly in the office. I found out, because I knew something was not right since late 06 where I have a slight malaise feeling and dull pains in the top left of my head from high blood pressure. I know when my blood pressure is good, because that's when I feel good.
The bad fats as well as alcohol and cigarettes are a huge risk factor. |
Lose weight. I was at 106 kilo's when my bp was 180/110. Now I'm at 90 kilos 110/70. Another important thing is that you can still have a life and work on lowering your blood pressure. When I was first diagnosed I tried to go cold turkey No alcohol no fatty food= no fun. Make your lifestyle changes gradual still enjoy a night out with your friends sometimes. You have to make a long term plan. Exercise in another key.
Medication is also good. Try Beta Blockers. |
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Fresh Prince
Joined: 05 Dec 2006
Location: The glorious nation of Korea
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Fishead soup wrote: |
Cook with Olive oil. That's what I do. My blood pressure used to be 180/100 now it's 110/70. I still eat Sam gyup sal at least twice a week.
I love spicy barbequed chicken too. |
How did you get the awfully high blood pressure to come down? I've had high blood pressure for a couple years now around 145/95. When I'm using a stair climbing machine in a gym like I was doing for a couple months this year in the states, I was getting much better readings of 127 to 135 over 78 to 85 and felt great, so I'm going to get back on that as I quit 2 months ago. This morning it was 147/104 which is bad. A Korean co-teacher has a small monitor that he uses over and over regularly in the office. I found out, because I knew something was not right since late 06 where I have a slight malaise feeling and dull pains in the top left of my head from high blood pressure. I know when my blood pressure is good, because that's when I feel good.
The bad fats as well as alcohol and cigarettes are a huge risk factor. |
I would get that taken care of. It's a pretty big deal to have high blood pressure since it can cause a stroke. They'll just prescribe you some pills which will lower it almost instantly.
When mine was that high, the doctor gave me medication which brought it down to perfect 120/80. I was able to get off the medication completely by cutting out a lot of bad stuff from my diet and doing cardio everyday. Low sodium diet, no smoking, lots of fruits and vegetables, no alcohol, no caffeine, change my job from high stress to low stress, multi-vitamin. |
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Fishead soup
Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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| sojourner1 wrote: |
| Fishead soup wrote: |
Cook with Olive oil. That's what I do. My blood pressure used to be 180/100 now it's 110/70. I still eat Sam gyup sal at least twice a week.
I love spicy barbequed chicken too. |
How did you get the awfully high blood pressure to come down? I've had high blood pressure for a couple years now around 145/95. When I'm using a stair climbing machine in a gym like I was doing for a couple months this year in the states, I was getting much better readings of 127 to 135 over 78 to 85 and felt great, so I'm going to get back on that as I quit 2 months ago. This morning it was 147/104 which is bad. A Korean co-teacher has a small monitor that he uses over and over regularly in the office. I found out, because I knew something was not right since late 06 where I have a slight malaise feeling and dull pains in the top left of my head from high blood pressure. I know when my blood pressure is good, because that's when I feel good.
The bad fats as well as alcohol and cigarettes are a huge risk factor. |
I would get that taken care of. It's a pretty big deal to have high blood pressure since it can cause a stroke. They'll just prescribe you some pills which will lower it almost instantly.
When mine was that high, the doctor gave me medication which brought it down to perfect 120/80. I was able to get off the medication completely by cutting out a lot of bad stuff from my diet and doing cardio everyday. Low sodium diet, no smoking, lots of fruits and vegetables, no alcohol, no caffeine, change my job from high stress to low stress, multi-vitamin. |
You shouldn't cut out everything you enjoy in life. Life is pretty pointless if you just sit around eating nude salad. Or go on the raw/vegan diet.
There's gotta be some pleasure in life. |
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