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The other side of the room salons
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.

PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:26 pm    Post subject: The other side of the room salons Reply with quote

My good Korean female friend, whom I've known for many years, just found out that her sister will be divorcing. It's quite a shock, as I've met them all. He was the "nicest guy" for so many years -- an architect, loved his kids and his wife (or so it was thought), big huge eyes that made him so attractive -- blah, blah.

Then last week, my friend gets a call from her sister that she is sitting there penniless with her two kids, and all of their belongings are out on the street in front of their apartment complex. The husband was "working" at his job, where he often slept overnight and stayed at "work". Why were all of their things now out in the street? Seven big mafia guys showed up and hauled everything out of the apartment because the rent had not been paid in months.

The surprise was that my friend didn't know a thing about her sister having money problems. Apparently, the husband hadn't been making much of any money in months -- despite working so hard. He hadn't been paying rent, and I believe she said they had difficulty finding money to feed the kids.

Now this is where it gets bad. The wife erupted and was pouring out her sadness to a family friend. As odds would be, this family friend also owns a bar. This bar owner friend couldn't hold her tongue any longer. That's when she broke it to the wife:

"Your husband has been dating/sleeping with a few of your friends, and when he was drunk, came in here and bragged to me that he'd recently spent 1 million won at a room salon. This has been going on for quite some time."

As you can imagine, the wife is shocked. So the guy has no money to pay rent for his family, and they have to scrimp for food, yet he dumps his money on other women and room salons. A Korean guy going to a room salon, barber shop, or a sex zone is no surprise to me. But a guy who would rather spend money on room salon whores than feed and house his own family who he lives with? Wow.

Yet another broken family due to room salons and obsessions with money and sex.
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A2Steve



Joined: 10 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry for the family.

You make it sound like such a particular behavior in only this country. There have been father failures in all corner of the world, at all points in time. and not just fathers- some moms even do such shit.

such a sad state of affairs, when a father fails to live up to his obligations. once again proving any loser can become a father, but it takes a man to become a dad.....
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Passions



Joined: 31 May 2006

PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Broken family!!! Deadbeat father. OH MY GOD! This kind of crap never happens in America. Rolling Eyes
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, this is the KOREAN discussion forum. The subject is about something which happened in Korea involving Koreans.

Let me help you out. Here's what this forum is about:

Forum for general discussion on issues related to *living* in South Korea.
Why do you feel the need to apologize for Korea here?
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Mr. Pink



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China

PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Watch Judge Judy sometime...you will see all kinds of people exhibiting the type of behavior that the OP is talking about in America.

So I wonder why you (OP) thought that that type of thing wouldn't happen in Korea?
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.

PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr. Pink wrote:

So I wonder why you (OP) thought that that type of thing wouldn't happen in Korea?


Feel free to quote where you say I said this.

The thread was titled, "The other side of the room salons"

NOT

"Korean men spend all of their money on hookers instead of their families"
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cheeseface



Joined: 13 Jan 2008
Location: Ssyangnyeon Shi

PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shit happens. In all countries................yawn.
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Typhoon



Joined: 29 May 2007
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man, you guys are serious d1cks. The guy/girl was sharing a story about what happened to a family he/she knows. He didn't say anything about Korean values or that this behaviour is a strictly Korean behaviour. What the hell do you want him/her to write about in a Korean discussion forum????? Rolling Eyes He/she acutally wrote "Yet another broken family due to room salons and obsessions with money and sex." But you could have put in call girls, whores, mistresses and the statement is equally as valid. However, this is Korea and generally speaking most foreigners associate room salons with the sex industry. Give the guy/girl a freaking break, this is a KOREAN discussion forum and this story is KOREAN story. If you want to discuss deadbeat dads from other countries go to Min Ho's KSL Cafe.

Good story on the human side of the sex industry OP. Don't let the jerks on this site make you feel otherwise. It was a good post.
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Gamecock



Joined: 26 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blaming the room salons? Seems like this is just a case of an irresponsible, selfish man. If it wasn't room salons, it would probably be something else for him. It's easy to point the finger at vices like like sex, gambling, or alcohol. All sorts of people indulge in these things without destroying their lives and the lives of their families. Without help, a self-destructive person will find a way to hurt themselves and those closest to them if you closed every whorehouse, bar, and casino in the world.
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is the wife good looking?
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.

PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spliff wrote:
Is the wife good looking?


I suppose she was pre-40s and pre-kids.

She's a very kind and quiet type, as I remember. Her family has been through a ton of heartache. Maybe 10 years ago, they had a young son who was barely old enough to walk. I don't think he'd taken more than a few steps at a time. They lived on the ground floor, and the wife left the door open for some air. While she was in the kitchen or something, somehow the boy got up from his bedroom nap and managed to get outside and walk behind a car while an ajoshi was parking. The ajoshi didn't see him (who could blame the guy for not seeing that tiny little boy) and ran over him. Terrible, terrible event.

Now, before any more "Korea is the next utopia" apologists accuses me of being racist -- people do in fact get run over in western countries, too -- by non-Korean drivers, in fact. Rolling Eyes
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sex Buying Practices Still Rampant: Survey
By Kim Cheong-won, Korea Times (December 15, 2005)
old link: http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/nation/200512/kt2005121517170211960.htm
alternative link: http://news.empas.com/show.tsp/cp_kt/20051215n21251
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He has to meet his business partners, who are in charge of giving orders to Park's company, for yearend parties. He has to have dinner with them, drinking together and often singing together at karaoke bars.
But, that�s not the end of the country�s unique �choptae� culture which means providing a treat or entertainment to business partners or authorities to get favors. Many times, they go to brothels, or massage parlors where they can "buy" sex, according to Park...

According to a survey of managers at 302 local companies across the country, more than 53 percent of the respondents said they visit quasi-brothels when they have the choptae meetings with their business partners while over 28 percent of them do the same thing after a company dinner....

Sex Matters to Women Who Say It Doesn't: Study
Chosun Ilbo (October 26, 2005)
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200510/200510260017.html
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It found that a mere 4.4 percent of women thought sex was important in marriage, compared with 77 percent of men -- almost as many as the 74.8 percent of women who said it was unimportant. A substantial 20.2 percent said maybe it mattered (compared to 14 percent of men), but only 2 percent of married men said sex did not matter. When asked if prostitutes are needed to satisfy men's sexual needs, 20.4 percent of women and 61 percent of men agreed....

Most Prostitutes Made W3-5 Million a Month: Report
by Tak Sang-hoon, Chosun Ilbo (January 12, 2005)
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200501/200501120027.html
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bassexpander, how dare you share stories with us. I wish S. Korea was more like N. Korea or China and that you were jailed for your communications.
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victorology



Joined: 10 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did the husband actually spend a million won of his own money at a room salon? Or did he brag about recently spending a million won at a room salon on the company's dime? Room salons are obviously highly prevalent here but for the vast majority, the bill is picked up by the company.
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GoldMember



Joined: 24 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The guy "bragged" about spending 1 million won for sex.

How dumb can you get.

It's like bragging about paying $20 for a glass of tap water.

Bet the hooker thought the guy was a total schmuck.

What a maroon!
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