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Lekker

Joined: 09 Feb 2008 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 8:56 pm Post subject: Labor Board Number, please help, if you know it, please post |
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Help me.
My employer is pulling a string, more like a rope, around my neck. I need some support here. I can't keep my feet down if they start to pull too hard. I had the labor board web page saved on my laptop, but then it crashed and now I need it again.
Please help.
Thank you, have a wonderful day. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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Can you expound on what the problem is? Maybe some of the board members can give you the information you need that directly addresses your problem with your boss. |
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polonius

Joined: 05 Jun 2004
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Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 10:32 pm Post subject: Re: Labor Board Number, please help, if you know it, please |
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Lekker wrote: |
Help me.
My employer is pulling a string, more like a rope, around my neck. I need some support here. I can't keep my feet down if they start to pull too hard. I had the labor board web page saved on my laptop, but then it crashed and now I need it again.
Please help.
Thank you, have a wonderful day. |
1350 from any phone, then push 7 for an English speaker.
http://english.molab.go.kr/english/ |
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wylies99

Joined: 13 May 2006 Location: I'm one cool cat!
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Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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Talking to someone at Labor won't accomplish much. You probably need to file a complaint IF your employer has violated your contract and/or labor law. You will need to protect all of your documents and you will also need the help of someone who knows Korean because the forms are all in Korean. |
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Lekker

Joined: 09 Feb 2008 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 7:29 am Post subject: |
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Contract states I am to work no more than 6 hours per day.
Employer tells me that I am to work at camp for three days.
Schedule:
Tuesday: 9am - 10pm
Wednesday: 7am - 10pm
Thursday: 7am - 3pm
Contract states that I am to be payed for overtime, 20,000 per hour. I am told I will be payed 50,000 per day. Aside from that, the job itself is cool. Just this camp nonsense is not. They asked me two months ago if I would be willing to do it. I said sorry, I don't feel like it, not in the contract.
Now they say that I have to do it regardless, and that I wouldn't be working the entire time, but being with kids from 9am Tuesday to 3pm on Thursday would be 40 hours, subtract 6 hours per day (3 days x 6 =18 hours) gives me 22 hours over time, multiplied by 20,000 won should give me 440,000 won. I smell a big load of BS. |
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flaptastic
Joined: 06 Jul 2008
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Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:06 am Post subject: |
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Just tell them exactly what you have explained in your last post. That is, if you are willing to do those extra hours. If not, then mention that you were asked in the past to do the camp and declined. It's not in your contract, so don't worry. If your boss tries to kick up a fuss then just keep calm about it - they're just power tripping, I'm sure you know how Koreans love a good power trip when they're given the upper hand in these kinda situations. Leave the Labour board option as an absolute last resort. Good luck |
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garykasparov
Joined: 27 May 2007
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Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:45 am Post subject: |
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If it is possible, record the conversations that take place between you and your employer. The labor board, should you choose to go that route, would have an interesting conversation over comments such as "I have to do it regardless, and that I wouldn't be working the entire time." |
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Lekker

Joined: 09 Feb 2008 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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These people can not be reasoned with.
I told them yesterday "no."
They said I have to. I told them to pay me more. They said they can not afford it. They can. They are loaded.
In the long run, I had reccommended some people to work for them, because, the job is alright without this camp nonsense. I told these people I had reccommended not to work for them.
Now they have to scramble at the last minute to PAY a recruiter a HEFTY fee to bring them some employees, and then, when I come back from camp, which I will not do anything at except work only 6 hours, I will go to the labor board. It will not be the first time I have done this to an employer here for violating a contract. It's really easy. If your employer is fn you around, take them to the Labor Board. Don't think twice. Don't feel as if you are doing something wrong. Just do it.
*beep* working in Korea. I've applied to work in Saudi. |
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buymybook
Joined: 21 Feb 2005 Location: Telluride
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Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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Lekker wrote: |
These people can not be reasoned with.
I told them yesterday "no."
They said I have to. I told them to pay me more. They said they can not afford it. They can. They are loaded.
In the long run, I had reccommended some people to work for them, because, the job is alright without this camp nonsense. I told these people I had reccommended not to work for them.
Now they have to scramble at the last minute to PAY a recruiter a HEFTY fee to bring them some employees, and then, when I come back from camp, which I will not do anything at except work only 6 hours, I will go to the labor board. It will not be the first time I have done this to an employer here for violating a contract. It's really easy. If your employer is fn you around, take them to the Labor Board. Don't think twice. Don't feel as if you are doing something wrong. Just do it.
*beep* working in Korea. I've applied to work in Saudi. |
HAAA, HAAA!! Like working in Saudi is better? Have you ever been there? If not, what makes you think so? Haven't you ever heard that the grass is always greener on the other side?
Oh and one piece of wise advise, don't ever tell someone what you did or especially what you are going to do. You will find that they will suffer more if they are surprised and can't prepare for what you've done/will do. And, if they are really loaded 1.000.000 Won isn't a "Hefty Fee" to pay a recruiter, your idea of "Hefty Fee" may not be theirs.
You say they are impossible to reason with, well maybe. Why don't you try one more time? Have a talk with only the owner in the office and inform him/her that you know that they are probably making a lot of money on the camp considering the amount of students etc..., certainly more than the 50,000 Won they are paying you each day and that they can/should pay you whatever per hour(your overtime rate), because that is only fair since "working camps" isn't in your contract.
Actually, it doesn't have to be. You said overtime is mentioned or at least the rate, so the specific work doesn't really have to be mentioned, overtime is overtime. Inform him/her you'd prefer not to work the camp but WILL, IF you are paid appropriately. Give it a try, be smart, fair(don't expect the world), and keep cool. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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"I can't afford to pay you what the contract says I must so I won't pay you that" is pretty much the definition of unreasonable. |
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Lekker

Joined: 09 Feb 2008 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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About to ship out of this dump of a camp now. Just asked her "when do you plan on paying me for this?"
"Oh, uh," she looked all confused, "You will be payed by the end of the month."
None of the other teachers have been paid here either for their time, yet. Time for a trip to the Ministry of Labor.  |
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KYC
Joined: 11 May 2006
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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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