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Tobias
Joined: 02 Jun 2008
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 Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 4:14 pm Post subject: Those seeing a shortage... |
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I have to admit....you guys who foresee a serious teacher shortage here may be right. The new visa rules, coupled with the won taking a dive...hmmm. The rules aren't too bad, save for that damn flight home when you change jobs. The won taking a dump isn't too bad for those who want to stay here long-term, as long as it stays reasonable. But both knives cutting together...
I wouldn't yell "Yankee go home!" too loudly right now, SK. You may get what you wish. And knowing you, you won't plan enough to notice until the first Sunday of next March at around 9 p.m. |
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Draz
Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam
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| Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 4:36 pm Post subject: Re: Those seeing a shortage... |
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| Tobias wrote: |
| The rules aren't too bad, save for that damn flight home when you change jobs. |
I didn't have to do this. The rules aren't too bad period.
The falling won on the other hand... so happy I lived like a monk for the first six months and paid off all my debts when I had the chance! |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 6:23 pm Post subject: Re: Those seeing a shortage... |
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| Draz wrote: |
| Tobias wrote: |
| The rules aren't too bad, save for that damn flight home when you change jobs. |
I didn't have to do this. The rules aren't too bad period.
The falling won on the other hand... so happy I lived like a monk for the first six months and paid off all my debts when I had the chance! |
How can we change jobs without going home now? |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 7:55 pm Post subject: Re: Those seeing a shortage... |
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| Adventurer wrote: |
| Draz wrote: |
| Tobias wrote: |
| The rules aren't too bad, save for that damn flight home when you change jobs. |
I didn't have to do this. The rules aren't too bad period.
The falling won on the other hand... so happy I lived like a monk for the first six months and paid off all my debts when I had the chance! |
How can we change jobs without going home now? |
Changing jobs is a simple visa run - same as before (Unless you have a black mark in your immigration file).
The home trip and consular interview is for newbies (first E2) or those who have an immigration violation in their file.
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Tobias
Joined: 02 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 6:36 pm Post subject: I guess they weren't in the know |
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| Good to know this info. I have two colleagues with no immi records who had to return home for simple slips of paper. I guess they weren't in the know. |
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sojourner1
Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug
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| Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:10 pm Post subject: Re: I guess they weren't in the know |
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| Tobias wrote: |
| Good to know this info. I have two colleagues with no immi records who had to return home for simple slips of paper. I guess they weren't in the know. |
Guess it's OK to return home at your employers expense. We all need to go home and see family and old friends. One big problem with the friends part, they are mostly either incarcerated or dead. It's a tragedy how things are going at home for so many. Well, I won't go any further into detail, just take a vacation home to get a taste of your home country while seeking your documents and visa. |
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D.D.
Joined: 29 May 2008
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| Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Looks like there is double standards in terms of visas. I was just told that I don't need a CRC or transcripts to get my new visa. I have also talked to other teachers who didn't need all the stuff. So whats going on? |
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Juregen
Joined: 30 May 2006
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| Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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| If you can get an E2 without CRC, transcripts and other docs, then something is really amiss. |
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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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| If there is a shortage, I'm not seeing it. SMOE just hired like 400+ teachers last month. Largest hiring wave ever. They even turned away a lot of teachers, and have a long list of backups incase people run. |
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Tobias
Joined: 02 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:05 pm Post subject: Who told you THIS baloney? |
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| D.D. wrote: |
| Looks like there is double standards in terms of visas. I was just told that I don't need a CRC or transcripts to get my new visa. I have also talked to other teachers who didn't need all the stuff. So whats going on? |
Who told you this baloney, Double D?
Let's make sure we're on the same page, as maybe we're not. I'm talking about getting a new E-2 for a new job. |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:34 pm Post subject: Re: Those seeing a shortage... |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
The home trip and consular interview is for newbies (first E2) or those who have an immigration violation in their file.
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Which pretty much backs up the OPs point in the first place, I'd say. |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:48 pm Post subject: Re: Those seeing a shortage... |
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| bassexpander wrote: |
| ttompatz wrote: |
The home trip and consular interview is for newbies (first E2) or those who have an immigration violation in their file.
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Which pretty much backs up the OPs point in the first place, I'd say. |
Veterans are not the key so much, because so many hagwons depend on new graduates from North America, the U.K. etc.... If the rules get complicated, they won't want to come if the currency is not that great unless they are curious about coming to Korea. And many veterans are kind of getting fed up with the Korean Government and the amount of corruption the in government and hagwons. I wouldn't really recommend someone to come to Korea unless they have a master's and want to work in a university or if someone wants to work in a public school. |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 6:19 am Post subject: |
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| Juregen wrote: |
| If you can get an E2 without CRC, transcripts and other docs, then something is really amiss. |
Why? Do you forget how to talk without them? |
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Ut videam
Joined: 07 Dec 2007
Location: Pocheon-si, Gyeonggi-do
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| Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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| D.D. wrote: |
| Looks like there is double standards in terms of visas. I was just told that I don't need a CRC or transcripts to get my new visa. I have also talked to other teachers who didn't need all the stuff. So whats going on? |
Are you talking about a renewal?
You've never needed transcripts to renew (i.e., extend) your visa. Likewise, if you've already provided a CRC (either to Immi or to EPIK/GEPIK/SMOE), you won't need one at renewal time.
If you're talking about an actual newly-issued visa, then I suggest you double-check your information. |
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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| Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 7:00 am Post subject: |
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Using real economic data (not the government lies) the US has been in a recession since last year. Now, we are experiencing a financial meltdown caused by the collapse of the Federal Reserve money supply bubble.
This means that in few months there could be a huge number of unemployed workers more than happy to work at even lower pay levels than today, even if the exchange rate is poor.
Unfortunately, it also means that the Korean economy will also go into a recession or depression. This will sharply curtail the spending for English teachers, especially in the Government schools and private schools.
Next year we could see a lot more available teachers with far fewer available jobs. |
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