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itaewonguy
Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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 Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:44 pm Post subject: Just what if though!? what if it were true! X files! |
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Ok I was reading up on that guy who said he found BIGFOOT, and I was thinking.. Well what if it is bigfoot. what if the US government said its true we have a UFO in roswell, and many other paranormal is true..
what does that mean for faith! where does atheism stand then?! does it actually change anything in terms of religion, science and evolution?
how much of an impact would it have on the world if it were true?
what would it change?
I mean we could explain bigfoot as some freakish evolution
but I guess UFO's would create chaos in terms of evolution and religion right?.. and a religious world as we are I guess thats a reason to it up right?
ps. before you say well what if santa claus were true, its actually probable that Aliens may exist!
this is just a hypothetical discussion... |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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If Bigfoot were true, it wouldn't do any more than just add a twig to the primate branch.
As for aliens and religion, wouldn't it make a difference what they had to say about religion? Suppose an alien said $&%@#* had been to their home planet and died for their sins. That could put a different spin on things for some people. On the other hand, what if the aliens said they'd been to the edge of the universe, looked over and saw a giant turtle swimming through space with the universe on its back?
It's the details that matter.
The biggest impact might be on science. If 'they' are here then they've solved some problems that seem insoluable to us at our stage of development, intergalactic space flight being the most obvious.
But the biggest mystery of all is why a man as rich as Elvis would want to work at a gas station in Michigan. IF aliens turn out to be real, that's the first question I want answered. |
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A2Steve
Joined: 10 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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Rosell is basically the first big part of the establishment of modern American myth. The History Channel had a good documentary on the hidden Roswell, and where different elements of the story ultimately came from.....
As for God and aliens, I thought John Carpenter's Prince of Darkness did a good job of exploring that in a horror movie.
I assume those Bigfoots in Georgia won't be around long. I heard the Montauj Monster is migrating their way... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montauk_monster |
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Justin Hale
Joined: 24 Nov 2007
Location: the Straight Talk Express
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Our nearest neighbor in the cosmos, Proxima Centauri, is 4.3 light years away, a sissy skip in galactic terms, but still 100 million times further than a trip to the Moon. To reach it by spaceship would take at least 25,000 years. Just reaching the center of our own galaxy would take far longer than we have existed as beings.
Space is enormous. The average distance between stars is over 30,000,000,000,000km. Even at speeds approaching the speed of light, these are fantastically challenging distances. Of course, it is possible that alien beings travel billions of miles to amuse themselves by planting crop circles in Wiltshire or frightening the living daylights out of some poor guy in a pickup truck on a lonely road in Arizona, but it does seem unlikely. Still, statistically the probability that there are other thinking beings out there is good. Nobody knows how many stars there are in the Milky Way - estimates range from 100 million or so to perhaps 400 million - and the Milky Way is just one of 140 billion or so other galaxies, many of them much larger than ours.
In the 1960s, a professor at Cornell named Frank Drake worked out a famous equation designed to calculate the chances of advanced life existing in the cosmos, based on a series of diminishing probabilities. Under Drake's equation you divide the number of stars in a selected portion of the universe by the number of stars that are likely to have planetary systems; divide that by the number of planetary systems that could theoretically support life; divide that by the number on which life, having arisen, advances to a state of intelligence; and so on. At each division, the number shrinks colossally - yet even with the most conservative inputs the number of advanced civilizations - in just the Milky Way! - always works out to be somewhere in the millions.
What an interesting and exciting thought! We may be only one of millions of advanced civilizations. Unfortunately, space being spacious, the average distance between any two of these civilizations is reckoned to be at least 200 light years. This means that, even if these beings know we are here and are somehow able to see us in their telescopes, they're watching light that left Earth 200 years ago. So they're not seeing you and me. They're watching the French Revolution - people who don't know what an atom is, or a gene.
Carl Segan calculated the number of probable planets in the universe at as many as 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 (10 billion trillion). But what is equally beyond our imagining is the amount of space through which they are lightly scattered. "If we were randomly inserted into the universe, " Segan wrote "the chances that you would be on, or near, a planet would be less than 1 in 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 (1 in a billion trillion trillion). Worlds are precious". |
-Bill Bryson, A Short History of Nearly Everything |
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A2Steve
Joined: 10 Nov 2007
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Maybe that's what they want ya ta think! 
maybe this should be merged with the parallel universe clips from youtube elsewhere on the boards.
THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE!!!!! |
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IncognitoHFX
Joined: 06 May 2007
Location: Yeongtong, Suwon
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| Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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Try reading A2Steve's comment immediately after reading Justin Hale's excerpt.
It's like hearing a faint music playing in the background and thinking it's Mozart, and then hearing it more closely to realize it's just Metallica. 
Ah, Dave's... |
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