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blade
Joined: 30 Jun 2007
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 Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 4:55 pm Post subject: Half of Britians don't believe in evolution. |
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Half of Britons do not believe in evolution, survey finds
More than one-fifth prefer creationism or intelligent design, while many others are confused about Darwin's theory
Half of British adults do not believe in evolution, with at least 22% preferring the theories of creationism or intelligent design to explain how the world came about, according to a survey.
The poll found that 25% of Britons believe Charles Darwin's theory of evolution is "definitely true", with another quarter saying it is "probably true". Half of the 2,060 people questioned were either strongly opposed to the theory or confused about it.
The Rescuing Darwin survey, published to coincide with the 200th anniversary of Darwin's birth and the 150th anniversary of the publication of On the Origin of �Species, found that around 10% of people chose young Earth creationism � the belief that God created the world some time in the last 10,000 years � over evolution.
About 12% preferred intelligent design, the idea that evolution alone is not enough to explain the structures of living organisms. The remainder were unsure, often mixing evolution, intelligent design and creationism together. The survey was conducted by the polling agency ComRes on behalf of the Theos thinktank.
A spokesman for Sense about Science, an independent charitable trust, said it was important for scientists and educators to disentangle religious belief from evidence.
James Williams, a lecturer at Sussex University, said: "Creationists ask if �people believe in evolution. Evolution is a theory and a fact. You accept it because of the evidence. What the creationists have done is put a cloak of pseudo-science to wrap up their religious belief."
Later this month scientists and academics from across Europe will meet in Dortmund, Germany, to discuss evolution and creationism. It will be the first European conference of its kind to deal with different aspects of attitudes and knowledge related to evolution. They will discuss specific difficulties regarding the acceptance of evolution theory in their home countries.
Williams, who will give a paper presenting a British perspective on evolution and creationism in school science, said: "Evolution is very badly taught in schools so the results of the survey don't surprise me. On the other hand, creationism has traditionally been an issue in North America and there is a big problem in Australia and Turkey. It matters if people don't understand how science works."
The Rescuing Darwin project includes the launch of Darwin and God, a new book on the naturalist's religious beliefs, at Westminster Abbey, where he is buried, and a debate about evolution and religion. Participants will include Dr Denis Alexander, Lord Robert Winston, Professor Steve Jones and Professor Nancy Rothwell.
Events celebrating Darwin's achievements are taking place throughout the year. Cambridge University is hosting a festival to unravel themes of science, society, literature, philosophy, theology and music arising from his writings, life and times.
The Natural History Museum, in London, is exhibiting previously unseen specimens and artefacts, while Darwin's home in Kent, Down House, opens to the public from 13 February.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2009/feb/01/evolution-darwin-survey-creationism
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itaewonguy
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| Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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half of briton!? hahahahah try most of the world!!
without hard evidence why should anyone believe it...
so I don't blame Atheists for not believing in God.. SAME SAME!
One deformed bird which scientists want to pass off as a transitional species is hardly evidence! |
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ED209
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| Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Williams, who will give a paper presenting a British perspective on evolution and creationism in school science, said: "Evolution is very badly taught in schools so the results of the survey don't surprise me. On the other hand, creationism has traditionally been an issue in North America and there is a big problem in Australia and Turkey. It matters if people don't understand how science works." |
Here is the crux of the problem. I was never taught evolution in school. It wasn't until a rather cold Christmas holiday that I turned on the telly to watch The Royal Christmas Lectures then a badger eyebrowed Richard Dawkins went to great lengths to explain the theory.
Science is dying out in the UK with the populace. Just look at the high number of parents who rejected the MMR and the resulting rise in sickness and death that resulted. Less and less college students going into the sciences. Faith schools been built across the country. Christianity may be dying out but it has been replaced by a pick'n'mix of pseudo scientific beliefs. I'm sure if that survey asked the 2000 people to 'explain the theory of evolution' most couldn't. If they don't believe in it, fine, but if they can't explain what the theory is, then they have no place arguing against something they know nothing about. |
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Rteacher
Joined: 23 May 2005
Location: Western MA, USA
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| Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 12:49 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, are they so ignorant that they don't know that MMR's - and other advances of science and evolution (with no help from God) can wipe out all disease and death?
What foolish dreamers!  |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 1:12 am Post subject: |
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Confused about Darwin's theory is not the same as do not believe in evolution.
Most people don't have a concrete understanding of gravity, but it doesn't mean they don't believe in Newton's theory. |
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blade
Joined: 30 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 1:41 am Post subject: |
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| itaewonguy wrote: |
half of briton!? hahahahah try most of the world!!
without hard evidence why should anyone believe it... |
And yet many of the same people who doubt evolution have no trouble believing in God. |
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michaelambling
Joined: 31 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:45 am Post subject: |
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| Williams, who will give a paper presenting a British perspective on evolution and creationism in school science, said: "Evolution is very badly taught in schools so the results of the survey don't surprise me. On the other hand, creationism has traditionally been an issue in North America and there is a big problem in Australia and Turkey. It matters if people don't understand how science works." |
Here is the crux of the problem. I was never taught evolution in school. It wasn't until a rather cold Christmas holiday that I turned on the telly to watch The Royal Christmas Lectures then a badger eyebrowed Richard Dawkins went to great lengths to explain the theory.
Science is dying out in the UK with the populace. Just look at the high number of parents who rejected the MMR and the resulting rise in sickness and death that resulted. Less and less college students going into the sciences. Faith schools been built across the country. Christianity may be dying out but it has been replaced by a pick'n'mix of pseudo scientific beliefs. I'm sure if that survey asked the 2000 people to 'explain the theory of evolution' most couldn't. If they don't believe in it, fine, but if they can't explain what the theory is, then they have no place arguing against something they know nothing about. |
I can't agree with you more. |
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Tjames426
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| Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 5:37 am Post subject: |
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Evolution is a theory, not a scientific fact or law. No reason to worship Evolution as a substitute God.
Most would be surprised at how few true evolutionists exist. Seriously, one has to throw away the history and heritage of a lot of nations, races and people-groups to actually believe in evolution and atheism.
Remember Mao tried to destroy Chinese heritage, history, and culture by imposing the "Atheistic Cultural Revolution" upon the Chinese people.
Do you regret that Lenin and Stalin killed millions in the gulags based upon an evolutionary atheistic model?
Do you regret that Hitler tried to impose an evolutionary view of the "Master Race" upon Europe and beyond?
Those of you who believe in evolution regret that that these people failed?
Hmmm...interesting. |
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blade
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| Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 6:07 am Post subject: |
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| Tjames426 wrote: |
Evolution is a theory, not a scientific fact or law. No reason to worship Evolution as a substitute God.
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The Catholic church for all of it's many faults somehow manages to accept evolution as part of creation and for me at least that seems like a more sensible plan than just trying to dismiss the whole thing as a mere theory that is just waiting to be proven to be false. |
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JMO
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 6:21 am Post subject: |
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| Tjames426 wrote: |
Evolution is a theory, not a scientific fact or law. No reason to worship Evolution as a substitute God.
Most would be surprised at how few true evolutionists exist. Seriously, one has to throw away the history and heritage of a lot of nations, races and people-groups to actually believe in evolution and atheism.
Remember Mao tried to destroy Chinese heritage, history, and culture by imposing the "Atheistic Cultural Revolution" upon the Chinese people.
Do you regret that Lenin and Stalin killed millions in the gulags based upon an evolutionary atheistic model?
Do you regret that Hitler tried to impose an evolutionary view of the "Master Race" upon Europe and beyond?
Those of you who believe in evolution regret that that these people failed?
Hmmm...interesting. |
evolution=athiesm=genocide/mass murder.
Hmmm...retarded. |
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JMO
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 6:24 am Post subject: |
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| blade wrote: |
| Tjames426 wrote: |
Evolution is a theory, not a scientific fact or law. No reason to worship Evolution as a substitute God.
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The Catholic church for all of it's many faults somehow manages to accept evolution as part of creation and for me at least that seems like a more sensible plan than just trying to dismiss the whole thing as a mere theory that is just waiting to be proven to be false. |
Well that sentence really outlines the general ignorance. Most people really do not know the difference between a theory and a scientific theory. He should be pitied I suppose...such a lack of education. |
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Jandar
Joined: 11 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 7:37 am Post subject: |
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If asked the question do you believe in evolution I would answer no.
I do not "believe" in evolution any more than I believe in creation.
Now if you asked which theory I think best explains the state of nature then
I would choose evolution, I trust the assumptions of evolution theory more
than I trust the assumptions of creation theory (which I don't think meets
the qualifications to be a theory).
Science beats religion everyday of the week. |
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ernie
Joined: 05 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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for those who consider evolution to be 'just a theory', i dare you to put your money where your mouth is and test another 'theory' by jumping off a building without a parachute.
note: one side benefit of you testing the gravity hypothesis is that you'll be helping further advance the species via natural selection! |
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Faunaki
Joined: 15 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm not sure about evolution myself. Something is missing and it seems very egotistical. |
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JMO
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Faunaki wrote: |
| I'm not sure about evolution myself. Something is missing and it seems very egotistical. |
Yes, unlike being created in the image of God.
You may think that evolution implies that we are the height or the end point of evolution. we are not and evolutionary theory does not say that. |
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