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Dear Leader, Kim... maybe had stroke - US Intel Source

 
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traxxe



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 7:07 am    Post subject: Dear Leader, Kim... maybe had stroke - US Intel Source Reply with quote

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5j2zReXndGtxbEQ9gsY3SWxImKHHw

"WASHINGTON (AFP) � North Korean leader Kim Jong-Il has apparently suffered a health setback, "possibly a stroke," a US intelligence official said Tuesday.

"It does appear that Kim Jong-Il has had a health setback, possibly a stroke," said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

The official said it appeared to have happened in "the last couple of weeks."
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is more believable than that he died in 2003 and has been replaced by a series of impersonators.
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Whistleblower



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because the 'great leader' didn't attend the 60th anniversary of the creation of the country, it has renewed speculation that he is in fact either dead or unwell.

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Kim Jong-il fails to attend North Korea celebrations amid rumours he's dead

The failure of North Korean leader Kim Jong-il to appear at a military parade to mark the 60th anniversary of the founding of the People's Republic has sparked renewed speculation that the reclusive leader is either dead or seriously ill.

Rumours have increased in recent months that the health of Kim, known as the "Dear Leader" to the people of his impoverished nation, has been failing.

There have been frequent reports that Kim suffers from diabetes.

Suggestions that the North Korean leader has been taken ill have been bolstered by reports that a team of elite Chinese doctors have been dispatched to North Korea to treat an unnamed official.

Kim has not been seen in public for several weeks and experts on the North Korean situation say it is hard to believe that he would willingly miss marking the 60th anniversary of the nation.

At a ceremony in Tokyo on Friday evening, no mention was made of the health of Kim, whose name was cheered by the 300 invited dignatries.

Speaking in the shadow of a larger-than-life portrait of the North Korean leader, the deputy head of the North Korean residents' association, Ho Jong Man, failed to comment on Kim's health.

Instead, his speech laid the blame for renewed nuclear tensions squarely at the feet of Washington.

"The United States is to blame for the lack of progress in the six-party talks because Washington has failed to remove Pyongyang from the list of terrorist states," he told a partisan crowd marking the "Hermit Kingdom's" anniversary.

"We will never allow the U.S. to come to North Korea and search within our boundaries, just as they are doing in Iraq at present," he said in an address that would have been scripted in the North Korean capital.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/2710919/Kim-Jong-il-fails-to-attend-North-Korea-celebrations-amid-rumours-hes-dead.html
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NAVFC



Joined: 10 May 2006

PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whistleblower wrote:
Because the 'great leader' didn't attend the 60th anniversary of the creation of the country, it has renewed speculation that he is in fact either dead or unwell.

Quote:
Kim Jong-il fails to attend North Korea celebrations amid rumours he's dead

The failure of North Korean leader Kim Jong-il to appear at a military parade to mark the 60th anniversary of the founding of the People's Republic has sparked renewed speculation that the reclusive leader is either dead or seriously ill.

Rumours have increased in recent months that the health of Kim, known as the "Dear Leader" to the people of his impoverished nation, has been failing.

There have been frequent reports that Kim suffers from diabetes.

Suggestions that the North Korean leader has been taken ill have been bolstered by reports that a team of elite Chinese doctors have been dispatched to North Korea to treat an unnamed official.

Kim has not been seen in public for several weeks and experts on the North Korean situation say it is hard to believe that he would willingly miss marking the 60th anniversary of the nation.

At a ceremony in Tokyo on Friday evening, no mention was made of the health of Kim, whose name was cheered by the 300 invited dignatries.

Speaking in the shadow of a larger-than-life portrait of the North Korean leader, the deputy head of the North Korean residents' association, Ho Jong Man, failed to comment on Kim's health.

Instead, his speech laid the blame for renewed nuclear tensions squarely at the feet of Washington.

"The United States is to blame for the lack of progress in the six-party talks because Washington has failed to remove Pyongyang from the list of terrorist states," he told a partisan crowd marking the "Hermit Kingdom's" anniversary.

"We will never allow the U.S. to come to North Korea and search within our boundaries, just as they are doing in Iraq at present," he said in an address that would have been scripted in the North Korean capital.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/2710919/Kim-Jong-il-fails-to-attend-North-Korea-celebrations-amid-rumours-hes-dead.html


North Koreas problem was they thought they could actually complete this agreement without having to tell us how many and where their nukes are.
and when they wouldnt tell, we didn't remove them.
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Cheonmunka



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now do we cheer? Or do we mourn?
What will become of NK?

He will be dead, if not now very soon. Death comes real fast once your health goes down the gurgler and you start on the surgery route. Heart surgery + diabetes + other diseases causing complications will affect him and will kill him if not having already done so.
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Roch



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too many Koreans suck. That's just a plain ol' fact, too.
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traxxe



Joined: 21 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, a destabilized North Korea is a potentially dangerous news for us here.

There are reports they have been touting his sister as next in line to take over. THE DRPK has been calling her the equivilants as empress for the past couple of years I recall reading.

He also has male heirs but one was in Sweden studying last I checked and had little interest in taking over.

There is a chance though I think it small that fighting might break out which is a concern to our lives. Well, those of us in or near the border. Even though an attack on South Korea is doomed to ultimate failure. I've read reports that the sheer number of artillery pieces in the opening moments alone that are posessed by the North could rain down thousands of rounds a minute upon Seoul and border cities.

Again, I doubt that would manifest itself. It will probably be dictator business as usual as someone else steps up. There could be positive changes though leading to change.
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Roch



Joined: 24 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

traxxe wrote:
Well, a destabilized North Korea is a potentially dangerous news for us here.

There are reports they have been touting his sister as next in line to take over. THE DRPK has been calling her the equivilants as empress for the past couple of years I recall reading.

He also has male heirs but one was in Sweden studying last I checked and had little interest in taking over.

There is a chance though I think it small that fighting might break out which is a concern to our lives. Well, those of us in or near the border. Even though an attack on South Korea is doomed to ultimate failure. I've read reports that the sheer number of artillery pieces in the opening moments alone that are posessed by the North could rain down thousands of rounds a minute upon Seoul and border cities.

Again, I doubt that would manifest itself. It will probably be dictator business as usual as someone else steps up. There could be positive changes though leading to change.


Jesus H. Christ! Adjumma Bukhan as God Ol' Leader?!!!

Fork this!! Show Roch the shotgun!! Let Rochie at 'er!!
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seoulteacher



Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Roch"]
traxxe wrote:
Well, a destabilized North Korea is a potentially dangerous news for us here...


"WASHINGTON � Kim Jong-il, North Korea�s leader, is seriously ill and is likely to have suffered a stroke weeks ago, American officials said Tuesday, raising the prospect of a chaotic power struggle in nuclear-armed North Korea. "

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/10/world/asia/10korea.html?bl&ex=1221105600&en=acda2111e537322e&ei=5087%0A

Thinking of you guys out there, south of the 38th parallel...
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khyber



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

do you think North Koreans know about this?
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Beej



Joined: 05 Mar 2005
Location: Eungam Loop

PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When it is officially announced that he is dead, what will happen to the dollar/won exchange rate. Probably not good for us.
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Paddycakes



Joined: 05 May 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got dibs on Kim Jung Il's Harem...
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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who would fill a power vacuum in North Korea?

The Chinese would have to be careful not to look like they're taking a new colony. So, I'd assume they'd consult the South and strike an agreement to keep US troops south of the 38th parallel... and install a puppet president. Hmmmm...

Anyways, I'm with Bonhomme above. I want some Harem action.
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earthbound14



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DIE LIL KIM! DIE!!!!
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