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so I asked where the birds were! and re bulgogi
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bogey666



Joined: 17 Mar 2008
Location: Korea, the ass free zone

PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:48 am    Post subject: so I asked where the birds were! and re bulgogi Reply with quote

a different thread brought up the lack of bird fact, which had escaped my attention here...

and someone dared anyone to ask the Koreans what happened to the birds.

so I did Very Happy

I asked my H.S. students.

they said "die". "air". "factories".

so give credit where credit is due.. no one is denying the ovian absence and the causes for it.


on an unrelated matter.

They served bulgogi (only for teachers though) at school for lunch the other day. I didn't know what it was.. since I had not tried it here yet (actually turns out I had it at my welcoming dinner off the plane but I forgot)

I just something that looked like decent meat, so plopped a big amount on my plate. The Koreans get a kick out seeing my plate.. since I always put on lot of meat or fish.. very little rice... and some vegetables.. plus I refuse to eat their hot soups in this weather when the AC in the teacher's room isn't working (or used) and I need to run home to take a cold shower.

but they can't comment on my diet having seen the results (have lost 20 lbs since coming here 3 months ago)

anyways.. even though it was commented (and I'm sure correctly) that the quality of this beef/meat wasn't the best , my body absolutely LOVED it. Adored it.

First time I've had beef here since that first day. And it was good. Damn damn good. And i liked the way they prepared it. Delicious.

was told it runs for 10-12K won at a restaurant.. which is PRICEY as all hell.

but perhaps once every 2 weeks.. might be worth it.!
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Css



Joined: 27 Sep 2004
Location: South of the river

PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was up in the north of seoul recently...walked past this little area of greenery next to a kids playground and saw a small flock of tiny birds...no idea what they were...like little sparrows...maybe they were sparrows Embarassed it was a very pleasant surprise at the time but i didnt know why....when i got back i realised why...theres no birds down here in the city proper...just the scraggly mangy pigeons that are everywhere..

kinda cool seeing the little flying bags of bones..
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blurgalurgalurga



Joined: 18 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

there's still a few different types of birds down here in the sticks, in jeolla-do. At least ten species...maybe even twelve.
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Cheonmunka



Joined: 04 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got a magpie lives in the steeple on the roof of our building. The bird sometimes comes down the outer roof stairs to within four feet of me as I sit on the veranda. It's so neat. It doesn't see me and squawks away, 'Raarr raarr.'

But yeah, basically a lack of birdsong because of lack of trees. My last place lived in same neighborhood was next to a house with lawn and trees. I woke up with birdsong. Now, apart from squawk now and then there is no real birdsong to speak of as there are so few trees.
Anyway, if you were a bird would you live in Seoul?
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saw6436



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon, ROK

PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

An Osprey landed in a tree about 10 feet away from the wife and I when we were on vacation 2 weeks go. Very cool. I've seen a few hawks here but not as many as I see back in North Carolina.
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aldershot



Joined: 17 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 7:05 am    Post subject: Re: so I asked where the birds were! and re bulgogi Reply with quote

bogey666 wrote:
so give credit where credit is due.. no one is denying the ovian absence and the causes for it.


do you mean ovarian absence? because i would deny that. or perhaps you mean ovarian abstinence. i think i would deny that as well.
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bogey666



Joined: 17 Mar 2008
Location: Korea, the ass free zone

PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 7:22 am    Post subject: Re: so I asked where the birds were! and re bulgogi Reply with quote

aldershot wrote:
bogey666 wrote:
so give credit where credit is due.. no one is denying the ovian absence and the causes for it.


do you mean ovarian absence? because i would deny that. or perhaps you mean ovarian abstinence. i think i would deny that as well.


relax.

typo.

avian... avian.
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will start (live) trapping pheasant out here in the sticks in a few weeks. I think I'll keep my limit to six unless they're well fatted, then only four. On a morning ride on the riverbanks, I will usually scare up more than forty, or several every kilometer. A brace of braised pheasants for dinner with a nice red wine followed by a warm glass of Jamesons on a chilly rainy evening will be wonderful. I will get onto the ducks (hook and line or bow) in mid October to mid November. There is a winter flock of several hundred, so I don't think they'll miss four or five. I think I'll whack two of my sons rabbits in December and saute them in dijon mustard and a red wine reduction. I luuuuuv food.
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Fishead soup



Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've seen grilled sparrows in Tobongsan. There is a Makoli market on the way up the mountain. They grill the sparrows there.
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Faunaki



Joined: 15 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's lots of birds where I live, and I'm in Seoul but at the foot of a mountain. The first time I went to my house I was amazed by the wonderful sound of chirping birds.

Some parts of Seoul should not be lived in. They are vile and smelly. But some parts rock.
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ciccone_youth



Joined: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Japan

PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As for Bulgogi, yes it is delicious!

You can get it for about 6,000 won. I got to this little restaurant and they serve the bulgogi in a broth with veggies, it's really good.
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gteacher



Joined: 24 May 2007
Location: Ghost in the machine

PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I lived out in Incheon there were a pair of hawks nesting in a hole in the side of thh school. Seeing them soar around the school every so often was the only thing that made that place bearable.
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Mr.Mulder2



Joined: 05 May 2008

PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are plenty of birds around, just not in bigger cities.
Check out www.birdskorea.org - a lot of migrating birds are increasingly threatened because of the unchecked developement of mudflats that is going on. There are some petitions on there to sign. Also, 'Latest bird news' is worth looking at, if you want to see some Korean birds.
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Hyeon Een



Joined: 24 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

poet13 wrote:
I think I'll whack two of my sons rabbits in December and saute them in dijon mustard and a red wine reduction. I luuuuuv food.


I'm all about raising animals for food, that's awesome.

I just hope you're not one of those psychos who pretends their kid has a pet and then whacks it and says "Haha! We're eating Flopsy for dinner! Enjoy!!!".

Please reassure us sensitive types that your son hasn't been raising these rabbits as pets rathen than livestock =)
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol....no, he has a pet rabbit. Just one. The other 6 are outside in a cage. He enjoys them, he has responsibilities with them, but he also understands they are food too. We have a rule in our house. If it doesn't have a name, pappa can eat it.

On a side note, in theS, my first wife had an older aunt who came to dinner one night. I put a plate of rabbit in front or her, and she announced that she didn't eat rabbit. So I removed it from the left, spun it 180 degress, and replaced it on the right, and said, "Here's your chicken!". For a long time she told people how good her chicken was that night.
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