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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 6:16 pm Post subject: LPGA tells South Koreans: No English -- No Golf! |
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,411201,00.html
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ORLANDO, Fla. � The LPGA Tour boasts players from all over the world, and it wants all of them to be able to speak English.
The LPGA will require players to speak English starting in 2009, with players who have been LPGA members for two years facing suspension if they can't pass an oral evaluation of English skills. The rule is effective immediately for new players.
"Why now? Athletes now have more responsibilities and we want to help their professional development," deputy commissioner Libba Galloway told The Associated Press. "There are more fans, more media and more sponsors. We want to help our athletes as best we can succeed off the golf course as well as on it."
The tour held a mandatory meeting with South Koreans last Wednesday at the Safeway Classic to inform them of the new policy, which was first reported by Golfweek magazine. There is no such rule on the PGA Tour.
There are 121 international players from 26 countries on the LPGA Tour, including 45 players from South Korea.
The South Koreans were informed of the rule, however LPGA commissioner Carolyn Bivens has not given them � or anyone � a written explanation, Galloway said.
But the message already appears to be lost in translation. The magazine said every South Korean player it interviewed believed she would lose her card � not be suspended � if she failed the English evaluation.
Angela Park, born in Brazil of South Korean heritage and raised in the United States, said the policy is fair and good for the tour and its international players.
"A lot of Korean players think they are being targeted, but it's just because there are so many of them," Park told the magazine.
Galloway said the LPGA is a "global tour and is not targeting any specific player or country."
Seon-Hwa Lee, the only Asian with multiple victories this year, said she works with an English tutor in the winter. Her ability to answer questions without the help of a translator has improved in her short time on tour.
"The economy is bad, and we are losing sponsors," Lee said. "Everybody understands."
The policy was endorsed by at least one tournament director, Kate Peters of the LPGA State Farm Classic.
"This is an American tour," Peters said. "It is important for sponsors to be able to interact with players and have a positive experience."
Galloway denied the move was based on sponsors and said interest in the tour has never been stronger.
"We are connecting with fans and sponsors like never before," she said. "But we want things to continue to get better, to continue to grow." |
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howie2424

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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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What other sport requires all players to be proficient in English as a precondition for being allowed to play? I mean, I can't think of one. I can see encouraging them to learn the language for the financial good of the sport, but this amounts to saying that no matter how good you are at the game, you can't play because your poor English skills earn less money for the game. I think it should be about the best players competing against each other to produce the best level of play for the public to watch, not giving the sponsors a "positive experience". |
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Unposter
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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I have to admit this does not sound like a good policy at all. My guess is they could sue the LPGA for discrimination but I am not a lawyer so who knows. |
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moosehead

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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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I think this is absolutely a step in the right direction.
Many Americans are familiar with the "dumb athelete" persona and there is simply no reason for it as sports require plenty of cognitive skills and intelligence.
Unfortunately, too many non-Americans see sports as a backdoor to the U.S. Perhaps they also hope to avoid such important cultural aspects of our country as learning the English language. Perhaps they also are reluctant to share their own country's culture as well as their own personal skills development with Americans for whatever reasons.
However, engaging in an international sports competition is a huge responsibility and the athletes at such a level do have an obligation to their fans and their sponsors (who after all put up the money) to be able to communicate effectively.
As for the K golfers, I can say this: I recently had a student who refused, absolutely refused to participate in E class. He never brought a book, a pencil, nothing to class - and this is a private elementary school where all students study E every day. His supplies were always left in his homeroom.
His explanation was that E wasn't important as he was planning to be a professional golfer. Our school also teaches golf as part of its curriculum.
I tried to explain how important E is in ANY profession but my words fell on deaf ears, as happens all to often in K when the NET speaks out.
He has since transferred to another school.
Again, I think the LPGA's statement is a good one. |
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justaguy
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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My guess is they want them to do more to promote the events and the LPGA. This would require English when in front of the tv cameras or doing interviews. |
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howie2424

Joined: 09 Jan 2003
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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moosehead wrote
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However, engaging in an international sports competition is a huge responsibility and the athletes at such a level do have an obligation to their fans and their sponsors (who after all put up the money) to be able to communicate effectively. |
They communicate quite effectively. They just don't do it in English. If that's what's important they should do what other sports do. Provide an interpreter.
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My guess is they want them to do more to promote the events and the LPGA. This would require English when in front of the tv cameras or doing interviews. |
Again, this is understandable but an interpreter solves this problem completely and is a far less draconian solution than suspending top notch players because they're not proficient in a foreign language.
I'll admit I'm a big sports fan but I don't watch much golf. In the sports that I follow the most important thing is the game not the post game interview or the Nike commercial. Maybe golf is different and people get more of a kick watching the post game analysis than the actual match. If that's the case it must be one very dull sport that probably doesn't deserve to be sponsored. |
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crusher_of_heads
Joined: 23 Feb 2007 Location: kimbop and kimchi for kimberly!!!!
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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When will the candlelight retards start revolting over this, and stop being so revolting while doing it???? |
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Scotticus
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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moosehead wrote: |
His explanation was that E wasn't important as he was planning to be a professional golfer. Our school also teaches golf as part of its curriculum.
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Hahaha. Good to know there are morons like this in every country. I'd tell you to sit him down and explain what a tiny microscopic percentage of people who golf ever even come close to the skill it takes to go pro, but he's already made his mind up. Good luck, kid... with that work ethic, you'll be the next Tiger in no time! |
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Eedoryeong
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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howie2424 wrote: |
What other sport requires all players to be proficient in English as a precondition for being allowed to play? I mean, I can't think of one. I can see encouraging them to learn the language for the financial good of the sport, but this amounts to saying that no matter how good you are at the game, you can't play because your poor English skills earn less money for the game. I think it should be about the best players competing against each other to produce the best level of play for the public to watch, not giving the sponsors a "positive experience". |
Sounds to me like they're not targetting the sport, they're targetting this tour. Perhaps other tours (European ones for example?) will have sponsors with more relaxed language requirements? |
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Css
Joined: 27 Sep 2004 Location: South of the river
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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Sounds to me like theyre sick of koreans dominating the competition and want rid  |
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aka Dave
Joined: 02 May 2008 Location: Down by the river
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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It's probably a sponsor thing. Golf is *hugely* sponsor driven, the tournaments are all sponsored by corporations and every player is a walking billboard for various coporations/golf equipment companies. It's also a personality driven sport. Tiger, Phil are name brands. This is about money (big surprise).
I'm a sports fan, but not a golf fan (it's a fun sport to play though). I watch the men's majors and that's it. It's on American TV way too much (like every fricking weekend). |
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xCustomx

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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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howie2424 wrote: |
What other sport requires all players to be proficient in English as a precondition for being allowed to play? I mean, I can't think of one. |
How about the Premier League?
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South American, African and other non-European footballers who cannot speak English will be barred from joining Premier League clubs from the autumn under the new points-based immigration system detailed by ministers yesterday.
The introduction of an English language test, covering everyday phrases and simple conversation, forms part of a package of tougher rules for skilled migrants from outside Europe applying to work in Britain and for temporary workers and students.
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howie2424

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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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Eedoryeong wrote
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Sounds to me like they're not targetting the sport, they're targetting this tour. Perhaps other tours (European ones for example?) will have sponsors with more relaxed language requirements? |
You may be right. I don�t know too much about the structure of women�s professional golf. Is there another pro tour? I thought the LPGA was the top tier competition. I can only imagine what would happen if this was done in other professional sports like hockey or baseball (baseball been berry berry gewd to me) where you have a lot of players with limited English speaking abilities. There would be a lot of high caliber talent leaving those leagues. The net result would be a lesser product on the ice or diamond and in those sports I have no doubt that would translate into less revenue. I guess women�s golf is different. |
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Jandar

Joined: 11 Jun 2008
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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When was the last time you saw a tennis champ that couldb't speak English?
Where is the Korean Golf tour? |
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howie2424

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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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xCustomx wrote
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How about the Premier League? |
Is the league imposing that rule or the local immigration authorities? Clearly there's a difference. |
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