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ontheway



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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 5:50 pm    Post subject: Bob Barr, Libertarian for President, hits 10% in NH poll Reply with quote

Former Republican Congressman Bob Barr has renounced his old statist ways, joined the Libertarian Party two years ago, served on the LP national committee, and raised funds for LP candidates.

Bob Barr is a friend of Congressman Ron Paul and introduced him at speaking events during Dr. Paul's recent campaign for President.

After the R party nominates John McCain, much of "the rEVOLution" will turn to Bob Barr.

Recent videos show John McCain to be such a flip-flopper and so senile that he could fall below 30% by November in the general election.

And, unlike any Libertarian Party candidate in the past, Bob Barr is getting some media coverage:

here on Bloomberg TV, May 29, 2008:


http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=n_o97bp5Wr0




New video added June 28, 2008:

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=Im0Wqj3BSvU


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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bob Barr on Fox Business News along with Wayne Root, LP Vice Presidential nominee: May 28, 2008:


http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=Kx11gya-430
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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It'll be interesting to see whether a high-profile Libertarian candidate bleeds more support from the Democrats or from the Republicans. Most people would probably assume the Republicans would lose more support to such a candidate, but then the Dems almost certainly have voters who are liberal on social issues and classical liberal on economics as well.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the other hand wrote:
It'll be interesting to see whether a high-profile Libertarian candidate bleeds more support from the Democrats or from the Republicans. Most people would probably assume the Republicans would lose more support to such a candidate, but then the Dems almost certainly have voters who are liberal on social issues and classical liberal on economics as well.


Barr could be helpful for classical liberal-liberals (like myself) by forcing Obama and McCain to recognize the classical liberals in their ranks and having to meet them half-way or experience a defection to Barr. I doubt I'll vote for Barr, but if Obama AND McCain say disgustingly authoritarian and hold anti-free market values, I can always throw my vote to Barr. Very unlikely, however.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Barr campaign to white supremacists: �Don�t let the door hit you on the way out�

Monday, June 2, 2008, 04:34 PM

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Libertarian blogs are reporting that Bob Barr is having it out with the same group of white supremacists who sullied Ron Paul�s Republican presidential campaign.

A pair of web sites, including something called Stormfront.org, on Monday ran an endorsement of Barr by James Buchanan:

�A vote for Bob Barr would at least send a message to the Republican Party that conservatives and Whites won�t sit still as they are stuck with a liberal presidential candidate like McCain.�


Thirdpartywatch.com reports Barr campaign manager Russ Verney is having none of it. He immediately issued this statement:

�The Barr campaign is not going to be a vehicle for every fringe and hate group to promote itself.

�We do not want and will not accept the support of haters. Tell the haters I said don�t let the door hit you on the backside on your way out!

�Anyone with love in their heart for our country and for every resident of our country regardless of race, religion, nationality or sexual orientation is welcome with open arms.�


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By James

June 2, 2008 5:00 PM | Link to this

Doesn�t Stormfront know Bob Barr himself is half african american. This would be a good time for Barr to talk about his african american heritage and say how foolish that Stormfront is for supporting him when in fact he himself is a minority. Ask Stormfront do they still support me now knowing I am half african american. Barr can show how foolish Stormfront is.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just watched Bob Barr on the Colbert Report and I have to admit I was shocked. Yes, shocked. In his previous incarnation as a Republican he voted for the Patriot Act. Now he says he's against it. He used to be against the use of marijuana. Now he's the supporter of some druggie group.

Isn't this just politics as usual? Flip flop. Flip flop. Pander to whichever audience to get some votes.

I am disappointed.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bob Barr is no flip flop politician. This was truly an ideological conversion. Congressman Barr has raised and donated thousands of dollars for Libertarian candidates, and served on the Libertarian National Committee for the last two years. He has changed his ideology from the conservative corner of the political map to the libertarian corner.


WATCH HERE: Bob Barr on ABC news' "Politics Live" interviewed by Sam Donaldson:

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=oSNUbW6vCpQ


This is a serious campaign. Bob Barr has just started but he's running at 6% to 8% in several state polls.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bob Barr on The Colbert Report.

From The American Spectator.
Quote:
NEW YORK -- When Stephen Colbert introduced the Libertarian Party presidential candidate last night, the audience for "The Colbert Report" cracked up when the studio monitors showed a picture of Babar, the elephant protagonist of children's storybooks.

The host of the popular Comedy Central mock-news program told his audience, "Full disclosure, folks: I myself am a Libertarian. I don't want big government to infringe on my right to tell other people how to think."

Jokes aside, Colbert's interview with the Libertarian nominee, former Rep. Bob Barr (not Babar), was surprisingly respectful. He gave Barr plenty of softball questions and allowed the candidate to answer at length...
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bob Barr is a phoney from way back.

"Despite Barr's fierce conviction at the time, he would later reverse his position on medical marijuana, actually joining MPP as a lobbyist five years later. In an interview with Stephen Colbert on the Colbert Report on June 4, 2008, Barr confirmed that he now supports ending marijuana prohibition, as well as the War on Drugs he once fought vehemently for."

FLIP FLOP

"Barr took a lead in legislative debate concerning same-sex marriage. He authored and sponsored the Defense of Marriage Act, a law enacted in 1996 which states that only marriages that are between a man and a woman can be federally recognized, and individual states may choose not to recognize a same-sex marriage performed in another state. At the 2008 Libertarian National Convention, he apologized for the part of the Defense of Marriage Act which prevents the federal government from recognizing same-sex marriages."

FLIP FLOP

"He now publicly regrets his Patriot Act vote"

FLIP FLOP

"In 2002 Barr, like all but six Republicans in the House of Representatives, voted for the Iraq Resolution in 2002.[44] He has since called for a withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq"

FLOP FLIP

"In Congress, he also controversially proposed that the Pentagon ban the practice of Wicca in the military"

Don't Libertarians believe in freedom of religion?

"An outspoken foe of abortion, the Georgia lawmaker had acquiesced to his then-wife having an abortion in 1983. And he had invoked a legal privilege during his 1985 divorce proceeding so he could refuse to answer questions on whether he'd cheated on his second wife with the woman who is now his third."

So far, the only 'admirable' thing I can find about this man is that he doesn't hire male prostitutes who dress up in furry costumes.

(Oh, how I love Wiki!)[/b]
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It takes intelligence and honesty to recognize that you were wrong and change to the correct view. "Flip flopping" means that you have no real view and change for political reasons. That label fits Mitt Romney's changes nicely, but no one could sanely argue that Bob Barr's changes have given him any political advantage:




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I'll admit it, just five years ago I was "Public Enemy Number 1" in the eyes of the Libertarian Party. In my 2002 congressional race for Georgia's Seventh District, the Libertarian Party ran scathing attack ads against my stand on Medical Marijuana.

Today, I am their presidential nominee and will represent libertarians at the top of the ticket on November 4th.

Huh?

That's right, Bob Barr, formerly the War on Drugs loving, Wiccan mocking, Clinton impeaching Republican is the presidential nominee for the Libertarian Party.

Now, you may be asking how this happened and my answer is simple: "The libertarians won."

For more than three decades, the Libertarian Party and small "l" libertarians have done their part to prove to America that liberty is the answer to most of the problems that we face today. Over the past several years, I was one of the many people influenced by this small party.

Whether through the free market or by simply allowing families to make their own decisions regarding the education of their children, libertarians have taught us that liberty does truly work.

In stark contrast, when government attempts to solve our societal problems, it tends to create even more of them, often increasing the size and depth of the original problem. A perfect example of this is the federal War on Drugs.

For years, I served as a federal prosecutor and member of the House of Representatives defending the federal pursuit of the drug prohibition.

Today, I can reflect on my efforts and see no progress in stopping the widespread use of drugs. I'll even argue that America's drug problem is larger today than it was when Richard Nixon first coined the phrase, "War on Drugs," in 1972.

America's drug problem is only compounded by the vast amounts of money directed at this ongoing battle. In 2005, more than $12 billion dollars was spent on federal drug enforcement efforts while another $30 billion was spent to incarcerate non-violent drug offenders.

The result of spending all of those taxpayer's dollars? We now have a huge incarceration tab for non-violent drug offenders and, at most, a 30% interception rate of hard drugs. We are also now plagued with the meth labs that are popping up like poisonous mushrooms across the country.

While it is clear the War on Drugs has been a failure, it is not enough to simply acknowledge that reality. We need to look for solutions that deal with the drug problem without costly and intrusive government agencies, and instead allow for private industry and organizations to put forward solutions that address the real problems.

One such solution was presented to me recently by a libertarian friend and supporter, Glenn Jacobs.

Glenn is a very unique guy with a very unique job. To say Glenn is a "big guy" or "intimidating" is an understatement. He gives people nightmares... literally.

Each week Glenn, who stands nearly seven feet tall, walks into a wrestling ring under the stage name "Kane" to beat other large men for sheer entertainment purposes.

Had I not pursued a career in politics -- and were about two feet taller -- I might have chosen a similar career path. Maybe...


To read the rest:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-barr/i-was-wrong-about-the-war_b_106249.html
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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but no one could sanely argue that Bob Barr's changes have given him any political advantage:


Had he not flip flopped, would he have gotten his party's nomination? He saw no political future for himself in the Republican Party so he flip flopped to get the nomination of the Libertarians. It looks to me like he wanted to be a big fish in a small pond.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
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but no one could sanely argue that Bob Barr's changes have given him any political advantage:


Had he not flip flopped, would he have gotten his party's nomination? He saw no political future for himself in the Republican Party so he flip flopped to get the nomination of the Libertarians. It looks to me like he wanted to be a big fish in a small pond.



Now, now, you're just being a negative nancy. You know very well Mr. Barr is going to lead a HUGE tsunami of support that will sweep all opposition before it...just like Ron Paul did...oh hold on a minute...
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great new video for Bob Barr:

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=Im0Wqj3BSvU
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If both evils keep getting worse and worse, and you keep voting for the lesser one each election, you just become progressively more evil.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, but the trajectory of evil would be lower.

BTW, are you an adherent of the Greek view of history where there was once a Golden Age and things have been getting worse ever since?
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