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wylies99



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:01 am    Post subject: TaLK Program Teachers Start to Teach Children Reply with quote

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2008/09/117_30362.html

TaLK Program Teachers Start to Teach Children

By Kang Shin-who
Staff Reporter

Assistant English teachers recruited under the ``Teach and Learn in Korea (TaLK)�program, started Monday to teach elementary school students in rural areas. The program, introduced by the Ministry of Education, Science and Technology last April, aims to increase opportunities for students in the provinces to learn English from native English speakers.

For this, the ministry recruited last July a total of 380 native English speakers from five countries ㅡ the U.S., Canada, Australia, New Zealand and the U.K. They mainly consist of ethnic Koreans from the countries who completed teacher-training programs last month and were sent to the underprivileged elementary schools across the country.

The foreign teachers will team up with local college students during after-school programs, helping students improve their English-speaking skills. They are scheduled to stay for six months or one year in coordination with 13 regional offices of education across the nation.

They will have opportunities to learn Korean language, culture and history through various programs. The National Institute for International Education under the ministry will assist and oversee the assistant English teachers.

Among the assistant teachers, 245 hold American citizenships, 69 are from Canada, 22 from Australia, 12 from New Zealand and five from the U.K. Some 300 are undergraduate students and the rest are university graduates. Of the TaLK participants, 314 are under 25 years old.

TaLK participants will receive benefits such as round-trip airfare and allowances of about 1.5 million won ($ 1,500) per month as well as a monthly accommodation allowance of 400,000 won.

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garykasparov



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teachers, including wylies99, will have to deal with headaches associated with the new Talk Program. There will always be plenty of employment options outside of Korea for teachers who can't cope with the problems associated with the new program.

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Yu_Bum_suk



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weren't they hoping for rather more than 380?

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Some 300 are undergraduate students and the rest are university graduates


Well they'll be feeling a right lot of nitwits when they find out how much more they could be making if they just applied for a normal job.
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marlow



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yu_Bum_suk wrote:

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Some 300 are undergraduate students and the rest are university graduates


Well they'll be feeling a right lot of nitwits when they find out how much more they could be making if they just applied for a normal job.


Amen.
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Otherside



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

marlow wrote:
Yu_Bum_suk wrote:

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Some 300 are undergraduate students and the rest are university graduates


Well they'll be feeling a right lot of nitwits when they find out how much more they could be making if they just applied for a normal job.


Amen.


With F-4 visa's to boot.
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hugekebab



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

garykasparov wrote:
Another drama filled thread about public schools in Korea on Dave's ESL Cafe. Teachers, including the OP, will have deal with the headaches or find another job. It is a very simple concept. There are some people that may be worried about loosing their jobs. If you are doing your job, then you have very little to worry about. This is also a very simple concept.


* Edit * Arggh! I can't believe I'm correcting people's English in threads now. I've been on this forum too long.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

* They live in homestays

* Most are under 25, will be leaving town for the big city whenever possible (possibly returning drunk). This actually happened at the 1st orientation.

* Talk attempted to over-hire, expecting a large amount of runners.
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jellobean



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why would anyone with a degree (especially someone able to get an F-4) do this? Perhaps a few for cultural reasons, but really I can't imagine that close to 25% are doing it for the culture.
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ticktock



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They get some sort of presidential certificate (no mention of monetary incentive with the cert though). Have had the opportunity to work with some of these TaLK candidates and no offence but the majority of them are just kids looking to lounge about in Korea for a short period of time (getting paid doing so) totally lacking in teaching skills and commitment. The central government and the GOE's been making them go through 3-4 weeks of orientation throwing jargons like task based learning, teaching with heart at them in hopes that these kids will suddenly transform themselves into competent English teachers which is so totally not the case right now. For the sake of the Korean students though, I do hope they've picked up some stuff along the way and will do a good job.
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wylies99



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ticktock wrote:
They get some sort of presidential certificate (no mention of monetary incentive with the cert though). Have had the opportunity to work with some of these TaLK candidates and no offence but the majority of them are just kids looking to lounge about in Korea for a short period of time (getting paid doing so) totally lacking in teaching skills and commitment. The central government and the GOE's been making them go through 3-4 weeks of orientation throwing jargons like task based learning, teaching with heart at them in hopes that these kids will suddenly transform themselves into competent English teachers which is so totally not the case right now. For the sake of the Korean students though, I do hope they've picked up some stuff along the way and will do a good job.


3-4 WEEKS of orientation? What's there to do during that much orientation?

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* They live in homestays

* Most are under 25, will be leaving town for the big city whenever possible (possibly returning drunk). This actually happened at the 1st orientation.

* Talk attempted to over-hire, expecting a large amount of runners.


Ah, well, that answers it.
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Jarome_Turner



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are some of these teachers giong to be teaching in highschools?

Anybody else see issues arising with having 20-21 year old "teachers" (in the loosest sense of the word) teaching high-school students? In the sticks? With not much else to do?
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Yu_Bum_suk



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jarome_Turner wrote:
Are some of these teachers giong to be teaching in highschools?

Anybody else see issues arising with having 20-21 year old "teachers" (in the loosest sense of the word) teaching high-school students? In the sticks? With not much else to do?


These ones are just at elementary schools but there's talk of GEPIK doing a similar thing that would involve 'teachers' that age potentially at high schools. That's just ludicrous.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
Jarome_Turner wrote:
Are some of these teachers giong to be teaching in highschools?

Anybody else see issues arising with having 20-21 year old "teachers" (in the loosest sense of the word) teaching high-school students? In the sticks? With not much else to do?


These ones are just at elementary schools but there's talk of GEPIK doing a similar thing that would involve 'teachers' that age potentially at high schools. That's just ludicrous.


that should/would be truly interesting....

Toss a bunch of 19-23 year old western uni students at a bunch of giggly, small town / rural high school girls for 6 months (frat party looking for a place to happen or what) ... wait for 9 months more and hmmmm......

Love to see the inevitable press reaction on that one ....

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Yu_Bum_suk



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
Jarome_Turner wrote:
Are some of these teachers giong to be teaching in highschools?

Anybody else see issues arising with having 20-21 year old "teachers" (in the loosest sense of the word) teaching high-school students? In the sticks? With not much else to do?


These ones are just at elementary schools but there's talk of GEPIK doing a similar thing that would involve 'teachers' that age potentially at high schools. That's just ludicrous.


that should/would be truly interesting....

Toss a bunch of 19-23 year old western uni students at a bunch of giggly, small town / rural high school girls for 6 months (frat party looking for a place to happen or what) ... wait for 9 months more and hmmmm......

Love to see the inevitable press reaction on that one ....

.


I can just imagine what would happen if some 19-year-old gyopo who can understand a lot of but can't really speak Korean got tossed in a room with my third-year high school girls after my 'co'-teacher introduced him and then went back to the staff room. I'm planning to meet a TaLK 'scholar' who's working in my town (with a former student of mine) and am thinking about inviting him to my school for a guest lecture - only the chances of one of my students trying to contact / date / stalk him would be quite a real possibility. Maybe it would be better to see about bringing him for a guest interview to one of classes of first-year middle school girls.
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Areut



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
ttompatz wrote:
Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
Jarome_Turner wrote:
Are some of these teachers giong to be teaching in highschools?

Anybody else see issues arising with having 20-21 year old "teachers" (in the loosest sense of the word) teaching high-school students? In the sticks? With not much else to do?


These ones are just at elementary schools but there's talk of GEPIK doing a similar thing that would involve 'teachers' that age potentially at high schools. That's just ludicrous.


that should/would be truly interesting....

Toss a bunch of 19-23 year old western uni students at a bunch of giggly, small town / rural high school girls for 6 months (frat party looking for a place to happen or what) ... wait for 9 months more and hmmmm......

Love to see the inevitable press reaction on that one ....

.


I can just imagine what would happen if some 19-year-old gyopo who can understand a lot of but can't really speak Korean got tossed in a room with my third-year high school girls after my 'co'-teacher introduced him and then went back to the staff room. I'm planning to meet a TaLK 'scholar' who's working in my town (with a former student of mine) and am thinking about inviting him to my school for a guest lecture - only the chances of one of my students trying to contact / date / stalk him would be quite a real possibility. Maybe it would be better to see about bringing him for a guest interview to one of classes of first-year middle school girls.


Are there any TALK "Teachers" on this forum? It would be nice to hear how things are going and what life for them is. But I agree that they don't belong in a high school or even middle school because of what could happen. But Korea won't think two thoughts about it and when *shit* hits the fan we all will look bad.
The reason I am including middle school is that I teach in a middle school and when I am walking home from PS the middle school girls and boys run after me and try to give me hugs and so on. Who knows what some uni 19 year might think or try. But that is only my two cents.
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