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staples



Joined: 22 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:56 pm    Post subject: working on September 1 Reply with quote

Here is my dilemna:

I have been offered a contract that states that I will be working from September 1, 2008 to August 31, 2009. The thing is, I am not even over there in South Korea, let alone have signed it.

The recruiter says that when I arrive, the place I'll be working at will make a new contract to change the date. I really don't know what to make of this.
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't. They could decide to make your pay 1.1 per month and ask you to sign that.

Sounds like bait-and-switch to me. If it were a registered public school job with a definite pay scale, I wouldn't worry so much. I'd still be very careful.
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staples



Joined: 22 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for replying.

It is actually from the Ministry of Education in Ulsan, so do I have to worry?
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Rusty Shackleford



Joined: 08 May 2008

PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't worry if it is public school.

Same thing happened with me back in March. Got here on the 18th of March and they changed my contract to finish March 18 2009.
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Sody



Joined: 14 May 2006

PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just be careful that you ready whatever new contract you are signing carefully. They might try and change something or if your signed contract had changes that were newly implemented then the newer one might not have such changes.

I strongly recommend you DO NOT sign this contract. The reason why is that I had a similar thing happen to me and basically what happens is that immigration may create your ARC based on the dates in your initial contract. The problem with this is that your ARC usually expires a few days after your contract is officially over. If by some stroke of luck they use the initial contract and end your ARC on a date you are still working, you will have problems. What you want is to have your ARC end several days after your contract end date so that you can resolve any last minute problems with severance, your bills, last month pay, etc.
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teachergirltoo



Joined: 28 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The same thing happened to me when I first came to Korea to work in a public school. It was no problem though. The first day at school we got the correct dates on the contract and signed by the principal and it has been smooth sailing since.
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loose_ends



Joined: 23 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sody wrote:
Just be careful that you ready whatever new contract you are signing carefully. They might try and change something or if your signed contract had changes that were newly implemented then the newer one might not have such changes.

I strongly recommend you DO NOT sign this contract. The reason why is that I had a similar thing happen to me and basically what happens is that immigration may create your ARC based on the dates in your initial contract. The problem with this is that your ARC usually expires a few days after your contract is officially over. If by some stroke of luck they use the initial contract and end your ARC on a date you are still working, you will have problems. What you want is to have your ARC end several days after your contract end date so that you can resolve any last minute problems with severance, your bills, last month pay, etc.


Or you can just extend your visa when the time comes. Easy as pie.

OP, I wouldn't worry about it. If that is the only problem you have had so far, you probably have a good gig.

Nothing and I mean nothing, runs smoothly in this country. Get used to it or don't come.

Have a nice day.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd be careful about that contract change. They could well decide to change only the start date and leave the end date the same, meaning you only end up with an 11 month contract and no severence. It happened to me in a public school.
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Kimchieluver



Joined: 02 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 2:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
I'd be careful about that contract change. They could well decide to change only the start date and leave the end date the same, meaning you only end up with an 11 month contract and no severence. It happened to me in a public school.


Yes be careful, but don't turn down the job because of it. Immigration usually makes sure it is a one year contract. Someone must have goofed on that one Ya-ta
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Draz



Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam

PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
I'd be careful about that contract change. They could well decide to change only the start date and leave the end date the same, meaning you only end up with an 11 month contract and no severence. It happened to me in a public school.


Shocked
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losing_touch



Joined: 26 Jun 2008
Location: Ulsan - I think!

PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

See you in Ulsan! Smile
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Tobias



Joined: 02 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 5:02 pm    Post subject: Have them fax it to you Reply with quote

If you know your definite arrival date, simply have the recruiter make sure the contract jibes and fax an updated version to you. If it looks good and you're happy with it, sign it. Just make sure it's good for a year and you won't have any problems staying legal near the end. Don't sign anything that's not a year. It must be a year-long if you want the bennies that come at the end, such as completion bonus, air fare, et al.
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staples



Joined: 22 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alright, thanks to all of you for the input. I guess I'll probably see some of you in Ulsan Smile

Cheers
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losing_touch



Joined: 26 Jun 2008
Location: Ulsan - I think!

PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

staples wrote:
Alright, thanks to all of you for the input. I guess I'll probably see some of you in Ulsan Smile

Cheers


Sure, shoot me a PM when you are on your way. I will introduce you to some nice folks in the area here. Ulsan is pretty laid back. The people I have met are exceptionally nice.
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staples



Joined: 22 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool, problem is, I don't think i have enough posts to send people a PM, if that is what you need to actually PM.
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