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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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 Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 6:28 am Post subject: Dan Quayle 1988 Versus Barack Obama 2008 |
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Who has the better resume?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Quayle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama
Arguably (it really is hard to say )Obama -and not by much at all.
Granted Osama is more articulate and he has a more compelling personal story.
but that is all folks.
Obama right now is no better than a new and improved Dan Quayle. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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huffdaddy
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| Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 7:46 pm Post subject: Re: Dan Quayle 1988 Versus Barack Obama 2008 |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
Arguably (it really is hard to say )Obama -and not by much at all. |
Quayle went to DePauw and Indiana Law. Obama went to Columbia and Harvard Law (where he was editor of the review). You think that's even close?
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| Granted Obama is more articulate and he has a more compelling personal story. |
And is more intelligent. With better leadership skills.
Quayle isn't even in the same league as Obama. Anyone who can't see that either isn't paying attention or is lacking something upstairs. |
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Kuros
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| Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 7:50 pm Post subject: Re: Dan Quayle 1988 Versus Barack Obama 2008 |
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| huffdaddy wrote: |
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| Granted Obama is more articulate and he has a more compelling personal story. |
And is more intelligent. With better leadership skills.
Quayle isn't even in the same league as Obama. Anyone who can't see that either isn't paying attention or is lacking something upstairs. |
So its self-evident because you'd have to be stupid not to see it? Kinda tautological.
Although Obama's credentials are better vis-a-vis grades and academic accreditations, I'd like to know where he's demonstrated leadership skills.
And please don't say his campaign, because I think Plouffe and Axelrod can take a sizable share of the credit for organizing that. I mean evidence of real leadership.
Let's just say I'm granting you the intelligence argument as a freebie. |
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huffdaddy
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| Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 7:59 pm Post subject: Re: Dan Quayle 1988 Versus Barack Obama 2008 |
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| Kuros wrote: |
| Although Obama's credentials are better vis-a-vis grades and academic accreditations, I'd like to know where he's demonstrated leadership skills. |
The same could be asked of McCain. Besides being appointed to committee chairmanships (due to his length of tenure), how has he shown leadership? Or going back to pre-Presidential B*sh. What successful leadership did he demonstrate?
To me, leadership does not come from inheritances or appointments. It comes from having a gift, usually a natural gift, to lead people. McCain does not inspire me. All I see is Bush III and four more years of problems. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:06 am Post subject: Re: Dan Quayle 1988 Versus Barack Obama 2008 |
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| huffdaddy wrote: |
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
Arguably (it really is hard to say )Obama -and not by much at all. |
Quayle went to DePauw and Indiana Law. Obama went to Columbia and Harvard Law (where he was editor of the review). You think that's even close?
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| Granted Obama is more articulate and he has a more compelling personal story. |
And is more intelligent. With better leadership skills.
Quayle isn't even in the same league as Obama. Anyone who can't see that either isn't paying attention or is lacking something upstairs. |
Ok Obama went to a better law school.
I gave Obama a slight edge when I started this thread.
However I would like to know how you say that Quayle isn't even in the same league as Obama. That is based on what.
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| Anyone who can't see that either isn't paying attention or is lacking something upstairs |
Well in that case you ought to have no problem whatsoever in showing it.
You often make a fairly strong case for what you believe -but not on this thread. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:08 am Post subject: Re: Dan Quayle 1988 Versus Barack Obama 2008 |
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| huffdaddy wrote: |
| Kuros wrote: |
| Although Obama's credentials are better vis-a-vis grades and academic accreditations, I'd like to know where he's demonstrated leadership skills. |
The same could be asked of McCain. Besides being appointed to committee chairmanships (due to his length of tenure), how has he shown leadership? Or going back to pre-Presidential B*sh. What successful leadership did he demonstrate?
To me, leadership does not come from inheritances or appointments. It comes from having a gift, usually a natural gift, to lead people. McCain does not inspire me. All I see is Bush III and four more years of problems. |
Has Mr. Obama stood up to the liberal wing of his party on anything?
McCain at least sometimes stood up to his party and other conservatives.
How about Mr. Obama? |
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endo
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| Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 1:42 am Post subject: |
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Obama is intelligent and well spoken.
Quayle is stupid.
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aka Dave
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| Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 2:16 am Post subject: |
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There is a signifigant difference in the fact that Obama is clearly not a moron and could spell potato. Editor of Harvard law review, law prof., etc.
Anyone who wasn't a complete idiot or whoring for their bankrupt ideology could figure this out after 5 minutes of watching each man speak. |
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aka Dave
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| Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 2:22 am Post subject: Re: Dan Quayle 1988 Versus Barack Obama 2008 |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| huffdaddy wrote: |
| Kuros wrote: |
| Although Obama's credentials are better vis-a-vis grades and academic accreditations, I'd like to know where he's demonstrated leadership skills. |
The same could be asked of McCain. Besides being appointed to committee chairmanships (due to his length of tenure), how has he shown leadership? Or going back to pre-Presidential B*sh. What successful leadership did he demonstrate?
To me, leadership does not come from inheritances or appointments. It comes from having a gift, usually a natural gift, to lead people. McCain does not inspire me. All I see is Bush III and four more years of problems. |
Has Mr. Obama stood up to the liberal wing of his party on anything?
McCain at least sometimes stood up to his party and other conservatives.
How about Mr. Obama? |
McCain used to stand up to the conservatives (pretty rarely, his conservative rating is solid).
However, that all changed when he started running for president, and there's no reason he won't govern that way. He's adopted all of Bush's economic policies, and his Iraq position is actually more neo-con than Bush's!
He wanted Lieberman as his Veep. He was *forced* to take Palin. This is how he'll have to govern, as a Bush/Rove Republican, because those types are dominant in the Republican party.
It was fairly obvious at the convention. This is Bush's third term. He can BS people all he wants but the policies are identical. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 2:39 am Post subject: |
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| aka Dave wrote: |
There is a signifigant difference in the fact that Obama is clearly not a moron and could spell potato. Editor of Harvard law review, law prof., etc.
Anyone who wasn't a complete idiot or whoring for their bankrupt ideology could figure this out after 5 minutes of watching each man speak. |
Quayle could not spell Potato but Mr. Obama said the US has 57 states.
I give the edge to Obama but not by much. |
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endo
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| Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 2:40 am Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
Quayle could not spell Potato but Mr. Obama said the US has 57 states.
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Context and source please? |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 2:42 am Post subject: Re: Dan Quayle 1988 Versus Barack Obama 2008 |
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| aka Dave wrote: |
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| huffdaddy wrote: |
| Kuros wrote: |
| Although Obama's credentials are better vis-a-vis grades and academic accreditations, I'd like to know where he's demonstrated leadership skills. |
The same could be asked of McCain. Besides being appointed to committee chairmanships (due to his length of tenure), how has he shown leadership? Or going back to pre-Presidential B*sh. What successful leadership did he demonstrate?
To me, leadership does not come from inheritances or appointments. It comes from having a gift, usually a natural gift, to lead people. McCain does not inspire me. All I see is Bush III and four more years of problems. |
Has Mr. Obama stood up to the liberal wing of his party on anything?
McCain at least sometimes stood up to his party and other conservatives.
How about Mr. Obama? |
McCain used to stand up to the conservatives (pretty rarely, his conservative rating is solid).
However, that all changed when he started running for president, and there's no reason he won't govern that way. He's adopted all of Bush's economic policies, and his Iraq position is actually more neo-con than Bush's!
He wanted Lieberman as his Veep. He was *forced* to take Palin. This is how he'll have to govern, as a Bush/Rove Republican, because those types are dominant in the Republican party.
It was fairly obvious at the convention. This is Bush's third term. He can BS people all he wants but the policies are identical. |
You could be correct but Mr. Obama hasn't done any better with the liberal wing of his party.
Mr. Obama was against the Iraq war but he has offered no solution for dealing with the problems that were going on before the US invaded Iraq and he has up to now offered no plan for how the US ought to deal with Iraq.
If you complain about Neo con McCain then what is your solution for the threats the US faces.
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 2:44 am Post subject: |
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| endo wrote: |
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
Quayle could not spell Potato but Mr. Obama said the US has 57 states.
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Context and source please? |
http://kr.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 2:57 am Post subject: Re: Dan Quayle 1988 Versus Barack Obama 2008 |
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| huffdaddy wrote: |
| Kuros wrote: |
| Although Obama's credentials are better vis-a-vis grades and academic accreditations, I'd like to know where he's demonstrated leadership skills. |
The same could be asked of McCain. Besides being appointed to committee chairmanships (due to his length of tenure), how has he shown leadership? Or going back to pre-Presidential B*sh. What successful leadership did he demonstrate?
To me, leadership does not come from inheritances or appointments. It comes from having a gift, usually a natural gift, to lead people. McCain does not inspire me. All I see is Bush III and four more years of problems. |
How about no accepting early release during the Vietnam war? |
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