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Korea's Suicide Rate Highest in OECD
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 1:58 am    Post subject: Korea's Suicide Rate Highest in OECD Reply with quote

Korea's Suicide Rate Highest in OECD in 2005
The number of suicides rose to an all-time high of 12,000 last year as more people took their own lives amid economic hardship, recording the highest suicide rate among the 30 member countries of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD).... South Korea also recorded the highest suicide rate among the OECD member countries.

South Korea also recorded the highest suicide rate among the OECD member countries. Hungary came in second with 22.6, followed by Japan with 20.3.

What was more alarming is that suicide topped the causes of deaths last year for 20-and 30-somethings who were supposed to actively participate in economic activities.... The leading causes of death for people under 20 were traffic accidents, while cancer and blood vessel-related diseases took a grater toll than other causes for people aged 40 or older.
By Lee Hyo-sik, Korea Times (September 18, 2006)
http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/200609/kt2006091817320510160.htm

Korea tops OECD suicide list
By Ko Kyoung-tae, The Korea Herald (September 19, 2006)
http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/SITE/data/html_dir/2006/09/19/200609190017.asp

S. Korea has top suicide rate among OECD countries: report
Yonhap News (September 18, 2006)
http://english.yna.co.kr/Engnews/20060918/640000000020060918135933E0.html
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VanIslander



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 2:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks a gimchillion Real Reality! Very Happy

I have instant course material with a good compare and contrast homework exercise on a timely news story.

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billybrobby



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WE'RE NUMBER ONE!!! TAKE THAT, JAPAN!!!


As much as I enjoy Korea, I've always said I would not like to be a Korean man. I would not like to grow up with Korean parents, go to Korean schools, work at a Korean company (forever), or have the Korean language as my only native tongue. I would not, I could not stand to be a Korean man.
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blaseblasphemener



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

billybrobby wrote:
WE'RE NUMBER ONE!!! TAKE THAT, JAPAN!!!


As much as I enjoy Korea, I've always said I would not like to be a Korean man. I would not like to grow up with Korean parents, go to Korean schools, work at a Korean company (forever), or have the Korean language as my only native tongue. I would not, I could not stand to be a Korean man.


Yep. I was thinking that the other day. I feel sooo sorry for these people. This society is really as good as they could come up with in the 21st Century? Really?
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markhan



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No doubt that Korean society is really, intensively competitive. I don't think there is any nation that will deliver food right to your door step for measly 5,000 won. And consequence of such is a high suicide rate. On the other hand, I guess it is one of the reason why Korean-American (Asian-American in general) has done so well academically. Jewish-American and Asian-American although they make up of 5% of US population, they represent 40% of freshman in Yale. Similar stats in most of top university. I also read that among the foreign graduate students in Harvard, students from Seoul National University attained the most PhD degrees.

I personally do not care to live like Korean for i lived in the State for most of my life. It is too competitive for me. But I do not feel sorry for them. Should I feel sorry for people in Switzerland and Denmark because they too also have the highest suicide rate?

It is kind of funny because in some Korean website, some Koreans accuse and comment that foreign English teachers are "unqualified, diploma-forger, womanizer" and that they feel sorry for them for they cannot find the job in their own countries.
In response such remarks, I ask them, "If you are young 20ish, have time to spare and travel to exotic countries before finding a real job, meet and interact with local people, and along the way, save some money, would you do it? Most people would then answer "yes." Only few obstinate ones will cling on and say "yeah, but they are white trash who cant find a job. They are so 불쌍해!.





blaseblasphemener wrote:
billybrobby wrote:
WE'RE NUMBER ONE!!! TAKE THAT, JAPAN!!!


As much as I enjoy Korea, I've always said I would not like to be a Korean man. I would not like to grow up with Korean parents, go to Korean schools, work at a Korean company (forever), or have the Korean language as my only native tongue. I would not, I could not stand to be a Korean man.


Yep. I was thinking that the other day. I feel sooo sorry for these people. This society is really as good as they could come up with in the 21st Century? Really?
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billybrobby



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

markhan wrote:
No doubt that Korean society is really, intensively competitive...[edited for length]


Yeah, this post cuts to the heart of the disconnect between English teachers and Koreans.

A lot of English teachers like to brag about how few hours they work for their pay; A lot of Koreans like to brag about how many hours they work for their pay.

To many Koreans, there is nothing more galling than a person who lives an easy, laidback lifestyle with little ambition to advance on to something more challenging. It's like a mockery of the entire Korean lifestyle. This is one aspect of Korean (and Jewish, for that matter) culture that I think gets passed down even when a family is transplanted to America. That's because it's transmitted via parental pressure and parental guilt. It's strange, because I find it equally impressive and pathetic.
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Corporal



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally I attribute it to the recent spate of pomegranate juice commercials.
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Real Reality



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Soaring suicides
Without a doubt we live in an extremely stressful society. But the many social conditions that drive us to mental strain or anguish can hardly explain the dismaying figure of 14,000 suicides a year, the highest among OECD countries.
Editorial, Korea Herald (October 31, 2006)
http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/SITE/data/html_dir/2006/10/31/200610310012.asp
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Qinella



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My student told me today that her 15-year-old friend jumped from the 12th floor a few days ago because she scored badly on a recent test. It's really heartbreaking to think about how much pressure is heaped onto these poor children. School is just not that important in the grand scheme of things. Or shouldn't be, anyway.
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jajdude



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's strange that the country is well-off but the 'happiness does not equal wealth thing' applies. Japan's got its share of woes too. The kids who shut themselves in their rooms for years comes to mind.

Why some poorer countries are happier than some richer ones, who can explain? There's a point to struggling to be well-off even though it doesn't make ya happy?

I guess it's not like people can undo their cultural training. If yr forced to be a certain way, that's hard.
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Gwangjuboy



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It doesn't help that Korea is almost as expensive as many countries in the west yet Koreans earn three times less. I often wonder how some of these people live.
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seoulsucker



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Qinella wrote:
My student told me today that her 15-year-old friend jumped from the 12th floor a few days ago because she scored badly on a recent test. It's really heartbreaking to think about how much pressure is heaped onto these poor children. School is just not that important in the grand scheme of things. Or shouldn't be, anyway.


That's horrible, but unfortunately, common.

Korea is not a country of second chances. If you perform poorly on certain tests, there's a certain feeling of "that's it." Bad test = mediocre university. Mediocre university = mediocre job. Mediocre job = mediocre marriage possibilities, income, and of course the inability to send your kids to Harvard.
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seoulsucker



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jajdude wrote:
Why some poorer countries are happier than some richer ones, who can explain? .


Goes back to a story/parable/anecdote I heard a while back.

Some rich guy is sitting at a posh resort on an island, getting served by a poor local. The local guy asks the guy how he makes so much money, and the guy says, "I work 80 hours a week, etc."

The poor guy says, "Why do you do that to yourself?"

The rich guy says, "So I can afford to go to a beach one week a year with my family, fish with my kids, and relax."

The poor guy cleans up, finishes his shift at 2:00, then goes to his house on the beach, fishes with his kids for dinner, then relaxes the rest of the day.

That's the gist of it...not quite as eloquently stated as the original, but you get the idea.
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kat2



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Korean friend last night told me that Koreans can tell if someone is smart by what university they went to. Thats it. Thats the only criteria. So these tests, espcially in high school, are so important. Its sad.
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Gwangjuboy



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kat2 wrote:
My Korean friend last night told me that Koreans can tell if someone is smart by what university they went to. Thats it. Thats the only criteria. So these tests, espcially in high school, are so important. Its sad.




It is sad. I find Asians generally to be very shallow people. British Indians are the same.
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