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mmarshalynne

Joined: 23 May 2008
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:20 pm Post subject: Does visa change of employment require all docs? |
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First, let me admit, I did not do enough homework before taking this job.
I have been here six weeks, and there have been a few signs that the Hagwon I am working for may be struggling financially. On Thursday, I was asked to sign a new contract that would reduce benefits and the change in language regarding retirement appears to attempt to eliminate my retirement in totality. Further, my first month's pay took out no taxes, cost for medical or retirement. The new contract states I would only be entitled to retirement if I contributed one-half and my home country contributed the other half. I am from the US.
In discussing this with the other teacher, she said that the Hagwon owner is very nice and just a bad business owner, and that her experience is that you just keep your mouth shut or a world of hurt falls down on you.
She also told me that prior to her being hired, the Hagwon only hired teachers without the appropriate visas who were already in the country. Thus, as of yet, no one has been there one year to get his or her retirement. I know I am entitled to the retirement, but understand that there are many ways for hagwons to get around paying -- like firing me in the eleventh month?
I am thinking it may be wise to find another job. Since I have been here less than three months, would I have to put together a whole new visa package, i.e., new transcripts, criminal clearance letter, etc., or can the visa just transfer? How much effort is required? |
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Adventurer

Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:48 pm Post subject: Re: Does visa change of employment require all docs? |
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| mmarshalynne wrote: |
First, let me admit, I did not do enough homework before taking this job.
I have been here six weeks, and there have been a few signs that the Hagwon I am working for may be struggling financially. On Thursday, I was asked to sign a new contract that would reduce benefits and the change in language regarding retirement appears to attempt to eliminate my retirement in totality. Further, my first month's pay took out no taxes, cost for medical or retirement. The new contract states I would only be entitled to retirement if I contributed one-half and my home country contributed the other half. I am from the US.
In discussing this with the other teacher, she said that the Hagwon owner is very nice and just a bad business owner, and that her experience is that you just keep your mouth shut or a world of hurt falls down on you.
She also told me that prior to her being hired, the Hagwon only hired teachers without the appropriate visas who were already in the country. Thus, as of yet, no one has been there one year to get his or her retirement. I know I am entitled to the retirement, but understand that there are many ways for hagwons to get around paying -- like firing me in the eleventh month?
I am thinking it may be wise to find another job. Since I have been here less than three months, would I have to put together a whole new visa package, i.e., new transcripts, criminal clearance letter, etc., or can the visa just transfer? How much effort is required? |
I take it you mean pension. Your employer is supposed to pay 50% of the the pension, and you are supposed to be the other 50%. This bogus about the U.S. paying the other half is your boss or whomever trying to play on the fact that you are a foreigner and are ignorant and they're making stuff as they go. You pay into the mention every month.
After the 12th month, you are supposed to get a severance check equal to your base pay. Suppose you make 2.1 million won per month, then you get 2.1 million at the end of year. As far as the pension per month 21,000 times 4.5% comes out of your check and his pocket every month if he is following the law.
I think if you want to quit, you will have to start all over again since you've only been here for a short a while, but I am not really sure since this is Korea and the rules change like the weather changes in North Texas. You will need a letter of release from your employee generally if you want to quit. You should ask in the job forum. I am not sure how the new rules would affect you, but transferring jobs is a pain when compared to the past, so it is very, very important for people to do their homework circa 2008 when compared to 2006-2007 or before.
I think you may have to go back home, unless immigration is lenient if you present a letter of release. I am not so sure your employer will want to give one. |
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CheeseSandwich
Joined: 02 Nov 2006
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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Since you've only been here a short while, you may have to pay back you plane ticket money.
Assuming you do that I see no reason why your boss wouldn't give you a letter of release and they infact have too.
As long as you've been in Korea and already have given a background check , you shouldn't have to give another one. Since you've been in the country your record shouldn't have changed.
You may have to do a medical check, I think that may depend on the school. |
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mmarshalynne

Joined: 23 May 2008
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:05 am Post subject: leaving |
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I should have said pension instead of retirement in my previous post.
According to the contract, I am responsible for my plane ticket. I am assuming that I could get another employer to pick that up, and if not, I would be responsible. I know that I would need a letter of release. I really am wondering about getting all of those documents once again. |
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Draz

Joined: 27 Jun 2007 Location: Land of Morning Clam
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:23 am Post subject: |
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| CheeseSandwich wrote: |
As long as you've been in Korea and already have given a background check , you shouldn't have to give another one. Since you've been in the country your record shouldn't have changed. |
Not so. But if the original one is less than 6 months old (you did keep a copy right?) you can use it for your new job. |
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