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bogey666
Joined: 17 Mar 2008
Location: Korea, the ass free zone
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 Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 7:48 pm Post subject: changes afoot in Technical High Schools? |
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I think there are some changes afoot in technical schools.
Heard from my head coteacher that now tech schools will have to "specialize"?
and a lot of new curriculum and special courses are being added.
in my school, the principal has decreed the school day now willl end at 6:30 pm (this doesn't apply to me, of course per contract)
though.... they're talking about a special 2 hour/period English class, which they may want me to teach (since this is after school, I'll expect to be paid.. which even at 30K overtime (per contract) might be enticing actually It'd make for an almost 50% monthly pay raise.)
anyways, anyone out there hearing anything on the matter? |
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nobbyken
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| Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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Do your kids eat dinner at school?
Ours have dinner-time from 6.00, and next class starts at 7.00 .
It would be pretty hard to sqeeze in a 2-hour class after regular classes finish at 4.40 .
50% payrise does sound tempting, I would do it if they could schedule from 7-9pm. You don't want to be stuck at school for an unpaid hour at dinner-time. |
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bogey666
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bogey666
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bogey666
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| Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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well, the winds change again.
in typical Korean last minute fashion I am asked to start teaching the class literally an hour before it starts..
and aren't given the conditions until the very last minute.
but.. they're giving me 25K an hour (actually gepik overtime rate is 20) .. the classes are 4:30-6:20... every day excluding Wed.
small class of 11... although they've asked me to try to handle it without a Korean co teacher.
well.. this should be interesting.
I've accepted because the extra 200K a week amounts to a significant raise over what I am currently making. |
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wylies99
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| Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:50 am Post subject: |
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| OP, I hate to interrupt this conversation with yourself, but what is a "Technical High School"? |
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bogey666
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| Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:27 am Post subject: |
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| OP, I hate to interrupt this conversation with yourself, but what is a "Technical High School"? |
in the public school system, most schools are "academic", meaning "college prep".
Then there are the vocational/technical or sometimes called industrial high schools, which prepare students for basically "blue collar/trade/factory work". Most students who wind up in technical high school are put there because of low test scores, or they fail academic schools, etc.
as one other FT told me at an academic highschool where I went for a demo class - "you get my dropouts and the people I can't wait to see leave".
brutally frank, but honest.
Hence teaching at such school is in some ways more challenging and less rewarding than at a normal/academic school because the students skill levels and motivation are rock bottom.
on the flip side, in certain ways it's easy. |
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sojusucks
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| Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 1:17 am Post subject: |
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Korean teachers at my school have blocksof classes (2 x 50 min.) (at least for English), but I only have one 50 min. class per week.
My high school is a technical high school. It prepares students for certain job tracks. There is even a building for some students to practice their profession during the entire school day (sounds like fun). Other students have the choice of attending academic classes.
There are some students that purposefully go to technical high schools so that they can be the top in their class (and according to Korean teachers at my school, this can improve their chances of attending a university). |
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Kimchieluver
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| Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 1:23 am Post subject: |
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| bogey666 wrote: |
| wylies99 wrote: |
| OP, I hate to interrupt this conversation with yourself, but what is a "Technical High School"? |
in the public school system, most schools are "academic", meaning "college prep".
Then there are the vocational/technical or sometimes called industrial high schools, which prepare students for basically "blue collar/trade/factory work". Most students who wind up in technical high school are put there because of low test scores, or they fail academic schools, etc.
as one other FT told me at an academic highschool where I went for a demo class - "you get my dropouts and the people I can't wait to see leave".
brutally frank, but honest.
Hence teaching at such school is in some ways more challenging and less rewarding than at a normal/academic school because the students skill levels and motivation are rock bottom.
on the flip side, in certain ways it's easy. |
I have friends that have taught at "technical" high schools. None of them lasted or stayed on for more than a year minus vacation. The students' motivation to learn English is zilch. The "good" students keep quiet and/or sleep during class. |
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bogey666
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| Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 7:44 am Post subject: |
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I have friends that have taught at "technical" high schools. None of them lasted or stayed on for more than a year minus vacation. The students' motivation to learn English is zilch. The "good" students keep quiet and/or sleep during class. |
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fair amount of TRUTH in this...
but... I figure that's not MY fault... I try.. the rest is up to them.
more important than the students is the school and how you're treated.
I'm treated splendidly. I'm allowed to do some things that most PS teachers are not.
I'd never make that trade. (better students for shitty working conditions/ administration) |
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MissSeoul
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| Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 11:01 am Post subject: |
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| bogey666 wrote: |
| wylies99 wrote: |
| OP, I hate to interrupt this conversation with yourself, but what is a "Technical High School"? |
in the public school system, most schools are "academic", meaning "college prep".
Then there are the vocational/technical or sometimes called industrial high schools, which prepare students for basically "blue collar/trade/factory work". Most students who wind up in technical high school are put there because of low test scores, or they fail academic schools, etc.
as one other FT told me at an academic highschool where I went for a demo class - "you get my dropouts and the people I can't wait to see leave".
brutally frank, but honest.
Hence teaching at such school is in some ways more challenging and less rewarding than at a normal/academic school because the students skill levels and motivation are rock bottom.
on the flip side, in certain ways it's easy. |
Remember former president NO Moo Hyun was technical highschool graduates. |
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wylies99
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| Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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| MissSeoul wrote: |
| bogey666 wrote: |
| wylies99 wrote: |
| OP, I hate to interrupt this conversation with yourself, but what is a "Technical High School"? |
in the public school system, most schools are "academic", meaning "college prep".
Then there are the vocational/technical or sometimes called industrial high schools, which prepare students for basically "blue collar/trade/factory work". Most students who wind up in technical high school are put there because of low test scores, or they fail academic schools, etc.
as one other FT told me at an academic highschool where I went for a demo class - "you get my dropouts and the people I can't wait to see leave".
brutally frank, but honest.
Hence teaching at such school is in some ways more challenging and less rewarding than at a normal/academic school because the students skill levels and motivation are rock bottom.
on the flip side, in certain ways it's easy. |
Remember former president NO Moo Hyun was technical highschool graduates. |
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IncognitoHFX
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| Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think we should speak so harshly about kids in that system. We all know that the Korean educational system is about as subtle as a brick to the face, and subtle differences in the students tend to get brushed under the carpet as disabilities or abnormalities. Or individual students are plainly labelled stupid when they could just be dyslexic or something.
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if I found out there were the same amount of geniuses in these technical schools as in the academic schools. To boot, some kids are just late bloomers. |
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nobbyken
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| Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think we should speak so harshly about kids in that system. We all know that the Korean educational system is about as subtle as a brick to the face, and subtle differences in the students tend to get brushed under the carpet as disabilities or abnormalities. Or individual students are plainly labelled stupid when they could just be dyslexic or something.
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if I found out there were the same amount of geniuses in these technical schools as in the academic schools. To boot, some kids are just late bloomers. |
So true. There is a 3rd grade class at my Information HS, and for the most part they smart-asses. A few are really gifted though. Drawing very artistic comic books, great singers, a terrific beat box soundy thing singer, etc. There English level is so-so, and sometimes teaching them is like pulling teeth, but generally the class is thinking at a different level. |
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IncognitoHFX
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| Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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| nobbyken wrote: |
So true. There is a 3rd grade class at my Information HS, and for the most part they smart-asses. A few are really gifted though. Drawing very artistic comic books, great singers, a terrific beat box soundy thing singer, etc. There English level is so-so, and sometimes teaching them is like pulling teeth, but generally the class is thinking at a different level. |
Maybe it's their chance to be "outside the box" and some of them are embrassing that? If so, all the power to them. By being out of the spotlight they might have a better chance to be who they really are, and if competitive Korea Co. isn't their cup of tea there are many other countries in the world that would appreciate their unique expertise...
...which you should explain to them as their incentive to learn English  |
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