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[MA_TESOL]

Russia sends an IBM over 11,000 miles and it hits its target. The month long exercises are aimed at the U.S.



http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20081012/wl_afp/russiadefencemissilepoliticsus

[sojourner1]

Why would the Russians still be looking to pick a war with the US? I thought we were over that years ago.

[Tiger Beer]

It started up with Bush getting back into office. Condi Rice being a centerpiece of it, who has continued to be very Cold War-ish.

Placing more and more U.S. military bases all over the place in nearly all of the former Soviet Union countries surrounding Russia certainly has a lot to do with this over the last 5 years.

[bacasper]

[fiveeagles]

BScasper; the Russian had peacekeepers in Georgia first. A little bit of a dilemma wouldn't you say? Also, they were passing out Russian passports and putting up posters with Putin as President.

Russia is obviously intent on getting Georgia back.

[Ya-ta Boy]

[quote]Russia is obviously intent on getting Georgia back.

Hmmm...but they just removed their troops from Georgia and are back in those two little provinces.

Besides, Russia has had to shut down its stock market several times because the money was bleeding out in gushers; they have only one air craft carrier--most of their fleet is rusting in the docks; the rumor is that they send out a tugboat with what remains of their fleet in case any ships break down.

It's true Russia is not happy with the way things have been going in 'their' near abroad, but with some good diplomacy things don't need to end up in a cold war.

It's always a mistake to fight the last war.

[soviet_man]

The problem Russians have with Georgia (and Armenia) is not so much that they are independent - but that it gives a signal to other potential breakaway Russian provinces that it is acceptable to disregard Moscow: such as to independence movements in Chechnya, Abakazia, the Ossetias, Transnistria, the Kuril Islands, Kaliningrad and others.

So who benefits if the Russian state further breaks up?

- US capitalism which establishes more military bases to impose terror.
- Extremists from the Islamic world who extend their influence.
- The EU which sources more cheap labour and pillages oil reserves.
- An expansion of Turkish political influence into Russia's backyard.

None of the above four things are desirable to stability or indeed, common sense.

Georgia is a small, provincial, low-skilled republic of 4 million people.

Centuries of political designs on them have taught only one thing - that Russia is the only political vehicle capable of providing the strategic leadership and security that Georgia needs to survive.

[MA_TESOL]

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[Ya-ta Boy]

[quote]I think the point of the article is that they have ICBM's that can hit an 11,000 mile target...That target would be the USA

You say this as though Russian ICBMs were something new. They aren't. I lived for many years 12 miles from Offut AFB, one of the headquarters of SAC. We were well aware of Russian ICBMs.

Russia is resurgent. They are taking some provacative actions. With some solid diplomacy, a new cold war can be avoided.

[VanIslander]

yes, Russian OCCUPATION FORCES were in the Georgian province

don't call them Russian peacekeepers ... that debases what the U.N. at least TRIES to do

the Russian military were in the Georgian province as an act of aggression against the Georgian government; the only thing that muddies the waters is the fact that the majority in that province are pro-Russian

[mises]

Who cares? Russia is a drunk, aids infested crapshoot with life expectancy approaching parts of poor Africa, except for the muslims who will make up 50% + 1 in around 25 years.

http://www.voanews.com/english/archive/2006-02/2006-02-28-voa77.cfm?CFID=51290915&CFTOKEN=68468258

And once the muslims control it, they'll drag whatever civilization is left there down into the gutter.

The West can easily control them. And who cares about Georgia. Just because Bushy says "freedom"?

[sharkey]

russia is reacting normally, crapshoot american imperialism is surrounding it on all sides, Poland, Georgia, Baltics. I dont know why ppl are even blaming Russia, look at america and their policies.. I wish americans would wake up and realize no one likes their awful policies and their governments need to be held accountable.

[mindmetoo]

America has had a free reign over the world for the last decade +. Russia is trying to use its oil wealth to cut the USA back. Star Wars/SDI shut russia down once. We could have an SDI level program to move to alternative energy and we can stop buying Russian oil if it came to that.

[Ya-ta Boy]