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LydiaSarah



Joined: 02 Jul 2008
Location: Bucheon, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 9:27 pm    Post subject: Another quick grammar question Reply with quote

What's the difference in meaning b/w:

1) She has just arrived at the airport.

2) She arrived at the airport just now.

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DrOctagon



Joined: 11 Jun 2008
Location: Chicago

PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is no difference.
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Thiuda



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 9:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Another quick grammar question Reply with quote

LydiaSarah wrote:
1) She has just arrived at the airport.


I interpret this sentence to mean that 'she' has arrived a short time ago; with short time ago refering to a span of time dependent on the frame of reference used by the speaker. It could mean 30 minutes or six hours.

LydiaSarah wrote:
2) She arrived at the airport just now.


The use of 'now' limits the timeframe to the immediate past.
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LydiaSarah



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the help. That's what I had come up with as well. My co-teacher in grade 2 middle school class showed me that question from the coursebook. Doesn't seem like a distinction that is very high frequency....ugh...don't get me started on coursebooks!
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Privateer



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It says in the grammar books - and usage bears this out - that with the word 'just' simple past and present perfect can be used interchangeably. Call it an exception.
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Thiuda



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LydiaSarah wrote:
Thanks for the help. That's what I had come up with as well. My co-teacher in grade 2 middle school class showed me that question from the coursebook. Doesn't seem like a distinction that is very high frequency....ugh...don't get me started on coursebooks!


I agree. Textbooks often completely disregard context, reducing everything to grammatical distinctions. Well, I guess that's why we're around, to provide context...
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Thiuda



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Privateer wrote:
It says in the grammar books - and usage bears this out - that with the word 'just' simple past and present perfect can be used interchangeably. Call it an exception.


Yes, and the examples in the OP bear this out as well, however the focus here is on the adverb 'now', not the adverb 'just', nor the verb tense.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with DrOctagon: there is no difference in the way the two are commonly used.
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