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What teachers really get paid

 
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 4:22 pm    Post subject: What teachers really get paid Reply with quote

Korea stands out as having a long scale reaching a much higher level than that of other countries. The starting salary for primary teachers in Korea is $24,140, marginally behind that for Australia at $25,775. Australia ranks 3rd in the starting salary offered to teachers but Australian teachers reach a relatively modest maximum of $36,175 (ranked 12th) quite early in their careers. Korean teachers, on the other hand, reach $39,921 after 15 years and $66,269 at the top of their scale.
http://www.austcolled.com.au/archives/unicorn/unicorn-0700/4McGaw02.html

Among the 29 OECD members, only the Czech Republic, Hungary and Norway pay their teachers less when measured as a percentage of their GDPs. In Germany, Ireland, South Korea, and Switzerland, among others, teachers earn at least twice the GDP per capita.
http://www.veaweteach.org/lopaytch.html

For primary education, the Czech Republic, Hungary, and Mexico have relatively low salary costs per hour of instruction ($13, $15, and $16, respectively); by contrast, costs are relatively high in Denmark ($48), Germany ($49), South Korea ($62), and Switzerland ($48). Salary costs per primary teaching hour in the United States are in the middle of this range at $35. In South Korea, high costs per teaching hour at the primary level are balanced by a relatively high student/teacher ratio (31.2) and a low proportion of current expenditure on nonteaching staff, resulting in below-average expenditure per student (OECD 2000.)
http://www.nsf.gov/sbe/srs/seind02/c1/c1s7.htm#c1s7l3

In many cases, APEC members have different license categories depending on position level, subject area, and school level and type. In the Republic of Korea, teachers can obtain a higher rank license and an increase in salary through in-service training. Teacher licensing consists of four structures or levels: Grade 2 teacher, Grade 1 teacher, vice-principal, and principal. However, with the exception of Korea and Japan, most APEC members' licensing structures tend to be flat.
http://www.apec.edu.tw/ef9.html

Data in Excel Format
www1.oecd.org/els/education/ei/eag/tables/D1.xls
http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache:LzbhZTmygmcJ:www1.oecd.org/els/education/ei/eag/tables/D1.xls+teachers%27+salaries+korea&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

http://devdata.worldbank.org/edstats/ThematicDataOnEducation/WEITech/table26.xls
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jpal75



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a permanent, full-time beginning teacher in NSW - my starting salary was around AU$35,000, towards the end of the course the fact that we're one of the lucky countries to have a high starting salary was drummed into our brains along with our teaching experiences. However, this will only apply if you are able to secure a permanent, full-time position.
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Arthur Fonzerelli



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and your point is?
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just because



Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964

PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2003 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But RR, i'm not a teacher. I'm a babysitter(well thats what it said in the contract Smile ).
Whats the starting salary for babysitters because Korea has to rank as one of the highest in the world don't you think???
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jpal75



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2003 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The point is Korean teachers who work 6 days a week are being ripped off by their system which may explain some of the animosity your Korean colleagues may feel over foreign English teachers with little or no qualification earning more than they do.
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weatherman



Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2003 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jpal75 wrote:
The point is Korean teachers who work 6 days a week are being ripped off by their system which may explain some of the animosity your Korean colleagues may feel over foreign English teachers with little or no qualification earning more than they do.


Wow, baby..... "foreign English teachers earning more.." I didn't when I was with EPIK, nobody did. As to low qualification, that is what the went for, like myself, Master's with little teaching experience. See if they did bring in what you would want to be as real teachers, the Korean system would be exposed for the shame it really is. It is a catch-22 in many ways. That said, most try to make the system work, and do their best relative to what is needed.
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jpal75



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2003 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

weatherman wrote:

Wow, baby..... "foreign English teachers earning more.." I didn't when I was with EPIK, nobody did. As to low qualification, that is what the went for, like myself, Master's with little teaching experience. See if they did bring in what you would want to be as real teachers, the Korean system would be exposed for the shame it really is. It is a catch-22 in many ways. That said, most try to make the system work, and do their best relative to what is needed.


Ok, I believe I bit off more than I can chew. When I was shooting off I was relating it to my own experience and to those who I know. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe hogwan Korean teachers actually earn significantly less than the "Native" teacher.

Your point of choosing teachers who have no teaching experience make sense regardless of it being correct or not.
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weatherman



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2003 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jpal75 wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe hogwan Korean teachers actually earn significantly less than the "Native" teacher.


Depends. I would say most do, but not by that much. On the other hand, a few make so much more than the average hogwon teacher, it ins't funny. But here you are looking cram schools for the university entrance exam, and others such as TOEIC and the like.
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