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NoDolan



Joined: 29 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:24 pm    Post subject: Melamine vs Crazy Cow Reply with quote

Where's the outrage ? Where are the protesters ??

Babies are dying, thousands are sick.....
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korea doesn't have an FTA agreement in the works with China

the whole Crazy Cow thing wasn't about the beef. It was the Anti-FTA, Anti-GNP groups pushing their agenda.

No major political groups in Korea can use China has a way to damage the Lee Administration.

Its all political.
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PigeonFart



Joined: 27 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

precisely!

Where are the protests for Domestic Abuse, Suicide, Traffic Fatalities?

aaiiisshhhh!
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640x480



Joined: 02 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Murder, abuse, hunger...the list goes on.

So you're wondering where the protests are for everything other than mad cow? Why doesn't the U.S. public hold some massive demonstration against the Bush admin + every other screwed up thing over there as well?

It's the same everywhere...government sucks and people are screwy
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losing_touch



Joined: 26 Jun 2008
Location: Ulsan - I think!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

640x480 wrote:
Why doesn't the U.S. public hold some massive demonstration against the Bush admin + every other screwed up thing over there as well?


Well, they do protest about everything. As my hometown is Washington, DC, I used to see it all the time. The Bush administration has been protested to death!
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ontheway



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...

PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

losing_touch wrote:
640x480 wrote:
Why doesn't the U.S. public hold some massive demonstration against the Bush admin + every other screwed up thing over there as well?


Well, they do protest about everything. As my hometown is Washington, DC, I used to see it all the time. The Bush administration has been protested to death!





If only this was possible ...
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gypsyfish



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some of my students in my Contemporary Issues class were discussing this today and basically said that the USA is held to a higher standard because it's ... the USA. They expect this crap from China, but expect the USA to be better. I can't say that all students feel that way, but these five did. Most had lived overseas and recognized the hypocracy of the the mad cow protests, too.
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diver



Joined: 16 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or the outrage over Chinese fishermen fishing illegally in Korean waters, then KILLING a Korean Caost Guardsman.
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JongnoGuru



Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep

PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

diver wrote:
Or the outrage over Chinese fishermen fishing illegally in Korean waters, then KILLING a Korean Caost Guardsman.

Yes, but you seem to be forgetting that Korea doesn't have an FTA in the works with China. So, it's open season on the ROK Coast Guard -- and a moratorium on candlelight vigils for dead Koreans -- until they have one of them FTA thingies. In the works. With China.
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endo



Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home

PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JongnoGuru wrote:
diver wrote:
Or the outrage over Chinese fishermen fishing illegally in Korean waters, then KILLING a Korean Caost Guardsman.

Yes, but you seem to be forgetting that Korea doesn't have an FTA in the works with China. So, it's open season on the ROK Coast Guard -- and a moratorium on candlelight vigils for dead Koreans -- until they have one of them FTA thingies. In the works. With China.



Korea Irrational
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Typhoon



Joined: 29 May 2007
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is just flat out racist...bottom line. A great many Koreans don't like the USA. They resent that their success has come from the support of the American gov't.

I shudder to think what would happen if over 10 000 Americans were protesting in the streets of Seoul and attacking Koreans and Korean police, or an American fishing crew killed a member of the coast guard, or an American product was endangering the lives of many Koreans, let alone all 3 things within a 4 month period. I guess that the US embassy would be stormed and burned. I don't want to think what would happen to all the westerns here in the aftermath. It is crazy that China gets a free pass for this stuff, but the USA gets a shitstorm thrown its way over nothing. Crazy, I say.
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just buy some American beef at a butcher shop in Seoul and giggle and chuckle on the subway ride home. Laughing

Eating well is the best revenge. Wink

Saving money is a good one, too.
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I asked a couple Korean friends about why the calm reaction.

They said along the lines of, "Cheap, unsafe, bad good always come from China. No one is surprised about it."

So basically, if you get sick/die from a Chinese product then YOU should've known better. If you get sick/die from a U.S. product, then the U.S. shoudl've known better.

Held to a higher standard is right.
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endo



Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home

PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Typhoon wrote:
It is just flat out racist...bottom line. A great many Koreans don't like the USA. They resent that their success has come from the support of the American gov't.

I shudder to think what would happen if over 10 000 Americans were protesting in the streets of Seoul and attacking Koreans and Korean police, or an American fishing crew killed a member of the coast guard, or an American product was endangering the lives of many Koreans, let alone all 3 things within a 4 month period. I guess that the US embassy would be stormed and burned. I don't want to think what would happen to all the westerns here in the aftermath. It is crazy that China gets a free pass for this stuff, but the USA gets a shitstorm thrown its way over nothing. Crazy, I say.



I think the Koreans reaction is like the kid who can't fight or is too scared of the bully, amd instead redirects his anger towards someone who will take it.


Kind of the the Korean POW guards under the Japanese.
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merkurix



Joined: 21 Dec 2006
Location: Not far from the deep end.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Typhoon wrote:
It is just flat out racist...bottom line. A great many Koreans don't like the USA. They resent that their success has come from the support of the American gov't.

I shudder to think what would happen if over 10 000 Americans were protesting in the streets of Seoul and attacking Koreans and Korean police, or an American fishing crew killed a member of the coast guard, or an American product was endangering the lives of many Koreans, let alone all 3 things within a 4 month period. I guess that the US embassy would be stormed and burned. I don't want to think what would happen to all the westerns here in the aftermath. It is crazy that China gets a free pass for this stuff, but the USA gets a shitstorm thrown its way over nothing. Crazy, I say.


I was watching the MBC a few nights ago when their news program kept saying that now American products contain melamine (specifically Ritz crackers and Snickers bars). They did say that they were manufactured in China, but they kept emphasizing the "Americaness" of these two product.
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