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timmeh
Joined: 01 Oct 2007
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 Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 4:14 pm Post subject: Advice on building a PC (part 2?) |
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Hey everyone
Sorry if this post seems like a repeat of the last one but I too am in the market for a new desktop PC. Now what makes my situation different it that I don't need to buy a new monitor.
I'm not really good when it comes to knowing what parts from which company I need so my question to you guys is about gaming set ups. Can anyone recommend a build for a computer geared towards photo/video editing/gaming set up? My price range is about 800,000 - 1 mil won. I just want to be able to print out a build and bring it to yongsan and have it built for me without looking like a total noob. 
Any suggestions would be most helpful. Thanks again for your time.  |
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IncognitoHFX
Joined: 06 May 2007
Location: Yeongtong, Suwon
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 4:50 pm Post subject: Re: Advice on building a PC (part 2?) |
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| timmeh wrote: |
Hey everyone
Sorry if this post seems like a repeat of the last one but I too am in the market for a new desktop PC. Now what makes my situation different it that I don't need to buy a new monitor.
I'm not really good when it comes to knowing what parts from which company I need so my question to you guys is about gaming set ups. Can anyone recommend a build for a computer geared towards photo/video editing/gaming set up? My price range is about 800,000 - 1 mil won. I just want to be able to print out a build and bring it to yongsan and have it built for me without looking like a total noob.
Any suggestions would be most helpful. Thanks again for your time. |
There is a great shop in Yongsan. I bought my box (no monitor or peripherals) for around $800 (if I remember right) and about six months ago, so you might get a better system than I did.
My specs:
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8200 @ 2.66GHz
Total Memory : 2GB DDR2
Giga-Byte P35/G33/G31 Processor to I/O Controller
NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT (512MB DDR3)
Hard Disk (C : 149GB (NTFS) @ SAMSUNG HD161HJ 160GB (SATA300, NCQ, 8MB Cache)
Generic onboard sound
DVD-ROM
I've had no problems in it. I did not have to pay for the OS, either. It took around 30 minutes for the shop to assemble as all the parts were available. They're very professional and there were absolutely no hardware irregularities whatsoever (runs like a dream).
For $800 you should be able to top this, as I said, because my system is six months old.
So, print off your specs. Go into the computer building outside Yongsan station--past the front tents where stuff is being sold outside. Somewhere on the first floor, I believe in the middle, you'll see a computer shop. Tonnes of video card boxes, cases, monitors etc. lining the walls, and there will probably be a lot of people there too if it's a weekend.
Just to make sure it's the same place, you'll see the computers being distributed via the rear entrance.
Take your specs there, grab a number, show them to the employee. Bargain if you can. Your computer will be built on site if the parts are available, if not then you can come back. They're also extremely knowledgable so if you need to do some last minute swapping due to unavailability, they'll make sure you get the right price/performance mixture.
If you're not a techie, as you said, then they'll hook you up with the best stuff they have. You'll be fine if you just go in with a general idea of what you want (speed of the CPU, brand of the video card, amount of RAM, etc). I bought my new PC on a whim as I wasn't intending to purchase one that day. I ended up going in with a general idea of what I wanted but no specifics.
When I came home I researched the quality and reputation of the parts I ordered, and found that they had been more than fair in their selections (Crysis runs great on High settings, to boot).
The business is as legit as Yongsan gets too, so you'll be able to get a three year warranty (I did, within the $800).
Good luck and happy hunting! |
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IncognitoHFX
Joined: 06 May 2007
Location: Yeongtong, Suwon
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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| spliff wrote: |
I'd say u should be able to do way better than the above specs for 800,000 wonskers.  |
For $800 you should be able to top this, as I said, because my system is six months old.
I agree  He'll probably be able to do a lot better now. |
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kprrok
Joined: 06 Apr 2004
Location: KC
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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Here's what I'd recommend:
MB: ASUS P5Q-E - 190,000
CPU: C2D E8400 - 185,000
RAM: Samsung PC-6400 2GB x2 - 60,000
VGA: Any Flavor ATI 4850 - 190,000
HDD: Seagate 640GB - 80,000
ODD: Samsung Super-Multi - 25,000
Case: Thermaltake Soprano RS101 - 50,000
PSU: Zalman 600 - 105,000
CPU Fan: Zalman 9500 - 50,000
Total is about 935 plus build and OS, still under your budget.
This is very close to what I just bought a couple of months ago and I love my machine. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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| kprrok wrote: |
Here's what I'd recommend:
MB: ASUS P5Q-E - 190,000
CPU: C2D E8400 - 185,000
RAM: Samsung PC-6400 2GB x2 - 60,000
VGA: Any Flavor ATI 4850 - 190,000
HDD: Seagate 640GB - 80,000
ODD: Samsung Super-Multi - 25,000
Case: Thermaltake Soprano RS101 - 50,000
PSU: Zalman 600 - 105,000
CPU Fan: Zalman 9500 - 50,000
Total is about 935 plus build and OS, still under your budget.
This is very close to what I just bought a couple of months ago and I love my machine. |
Being a cheapskate I would do it a little differently.
I do everything you ask (often at the same time) in a multi-tasking environment and the quad core (Q6600) performs flawlessly.
A basic off the shelf quad core system with a bumped up Video card will be more than enough for any gaming needs into the near future.
500k for the system and add 100k for the upgraded video card. You do NOT need bleeding edge technology unless you are playing multiple games simultaneously on a 52" screen.
mainboard: Gigabyte GA-EP-35-DS3L: 110,000 (I have 3 of them and I am happy).
CPU: Quad core q6600 (multi-task like no other)
RAM: Samsung PC-6400 2GB x2 - 60,000 (you really only need 2 gigs - 32 bit windows can only address just over 3 gigs.)
VGA: I like Nvida unless you are using VISTA... 9600 GT 512mb: 134,000
(yes, I am aware of the driver issues which is why the exclusion for VISTA).
HDD - get the size you want - 320 gigs are cheap and adequate for most users; 750gigs if you are into downloading a bunch of torrents (you can seed forever).
ODD - any DVD burner will be fine (don't get a combo drive - get a DVD BURNER).
Case- pick one off the stack - you won't be working inside it so you don't have to worry about nicking your fingers - pick one with convenient ports on the front.
PSU - 450watt is fine. You do NOT need to spend the bucks for a branded 600watt model. (unless you plan to stick 6 HDDs in it).
Same with your CPU fan. Unless you are into overclocking the stock fan with the CPU is fine. Just add an extra case fan to move air through the case (especially if you get a big power supply - it will crank out way more HEAT than any CPU will)
My quad system as it currently exists:
MB - Gigabyte GA-EP-35-DS3L
CPU - Q6600 (quad core) and stock heatsink and fan.
RAM - 3 gigs (samsung)
ODD - LG DVD burners (2)
Video - Nvida 8600
HDDs: 4 x WD 750gig
........ : 2 x Samsung 500gig
PS: Generic 500 watt
Case: Generic off the stack case (pick for size and easy access cause I hate getting cuts on my fingers when I mess about inside it).
2 extra case fans cause 6HDDs do get HOT.
(except for the extra HDDs this system can be put together for UNDER 700k).
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jkamphof
Joined: 12 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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In April/May spent a million or so and got:
CPU: Intel E8400 Dual core 3.0Ghz
Video: GFroce 8800GT Alphadog 512GB
2GB Ram
Samsung 320GB SATA HDD
Zalman 600w Power supply
Intel P35 Mainboard
LG DVD-R/W drive
Fancy-shmansy box/case
19" (non-wide) Viewsonic screen
wireless mouse and generic keyboard
Skipped the sound for now and stuck with the mainboard soundcard.
However, there are some way better ATI & nVidea video cards out there now for cheaper and the Quad CPU's are getting more powerful. If you're doing gaming I think i would still stick with a dual core with higher Ghz unless there are better recommendations from others.
For 800-1,000,000 you can get a pretty sweet build.
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IncognitoHFX
Joined: 06 May 2007
Location: Yeongtong, Suwon
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Don't get 3GB of RAM if you plan on using XP. It's like throwing money out the window. |
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kprrok
Joined: 06 Apr 2004
Location: KC
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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| IncognitoHFX wrote: |
| Don't get 3GB of RAM if you plan on using XP. It's like throwing money out the window. |
I have 4GB in my XP computer, and it't not throwing money out the window. My XP machine uses it all and it's a serious improvement over 2GB.
As for ttompatz suggestions, they're all good. I understand the preference for nVidia, but I think getting an ATI card for a board that can do crossfire is a better idea in case you want to improve the performance later. Also, the P35 chipset is good, like the one he wrote about, BUT the P45 chipset has PCI-E 2.0 support, so that'll really help with the newer cards. Plus, the HD4xxx cards really scale well, especially the 4850 which runs circles around the 9600 and 8800 in crossfire vs. SLI. |
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kprrok
Joined: 06 Apr 2004
Location: KC
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Also, about the Zalman PSU vs. a generic. I look at the PSU as being very important to the PC. If it's crap, it could take the rest of the machine with it if/when it decides to die. A good PSU can give you a little more safety in this way. |
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sargx
Joined: 29 Nov 2007
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Temporary
Joined: 13 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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| 4gb and up is the shiznat. |
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timmeh
Joined: 01 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for all the responses. So far my computer is shaping up to look like this:
MB - Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3R
CPU - Q6600 (quad core) and stock heatsink and fan.
Bus(es) : PCI PCIe IMB USB i2c/SMBus
RAM - 4 gigs
ODD - LG DVD Burner
Video - Nvida 8600 GT
HDDs: 2 x 500gig
PS: Zalman 600w power supply
Case: Generic
If anyone has anything to add please let me know.
Cheers |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 12:21 am Post subject: |
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| timmeh wrote: |
Thanks for all the responses. So far my computer is shaping up to look like this:
MB - Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3R
CPU - Q6600 (quad core) and stock heatsink and fan.
Bus(es) : PCI PCIe IMB USB i2c/SMBus
RAM - 4 gigs
ODD - LG DVD Burner
Video - Nvida 8600 GT
HDDs: 2 x 500gig
PS: Zalman 600w power supply
Case: Generic
If anyone has anything to add please let me know.
Cheers |
You have chosen wisely..............except I think ATI are offering better cards for the money than Nvidia these days. The new ATI HD4670 is the same price as the 8600GT. Check it out for yourself...
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/9987-ati-hd-4670-512mb-gddr3-video-card-review.html |
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Temporary
Joined: 13 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 4:34 am Post subject: |
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Nvidia drivers are garbage. Their 8XXX line of GPU is known to have problems.
I second the ATI 4670.
Plus why waste money on Quad core when you have such a light weight GPU? Just go with a 8X00 series Dual core. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 5:13 am Post subject: |
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| Temporary wrote: |
| Plus why waste money on Quad core when you have such a light weight GPU? Just go with a 8X00 series Dual core. |
one word... MULTITASKING....
It is not all about the GPU.
It is truly nice to be able to game while encoding video, ripping a DVD or burning one, ALL at the SAME time.
Oh, and the cost of a Q6600 quad is not significantly different from a dual 8x00.
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