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Cornfed
Joined: 14 Mar 2008
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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 5:01 pm Post subject: Kissing and Formal Greetings |
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I'm doing a lesson on formal greetings. I pointed out that in NZ it's currently fashionable for men to kiss women and women to kiss each other when greeting, which the class seemed to find extraordinary. Is this the tradition in other Western countries, and what other greeting rituals are common? |
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thatwhitegirl

Joined: 31 Jan 2007 Location: ROK
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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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Kissing on the cheek is a European style of greeting. You won't see too many North American's kissing on the cheek. Maybe the posh rich ones. |
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victorology
Joined: 10 Sep 2007
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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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I'm from Hawaii and we do this all the time. A kiss on the cheek to greet someone of the opposite sex. I assumed all Americans do it but now that I think of it, I don't remember doing it much when I went to college in Illinois. |
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poet13
Joined: 22 Jan 2006 Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.
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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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Some countries it's one cheek, some two, and a few even left-right-left....or right-left-right, not sure which. |
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Cornfed
Joined: 14 Mar 2008
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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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poet13 wrote: |
Some countries it's one cheek, some two, and a few even left-right-left....or right-left-right, not sure which. |
I always thought multiple kisses were more of a French and Italian thing. In NZ the idea seems to be that the parties twist their mouths to the side to simultaneously kiss each other on the right cheek or the woman simply offers her right cheek to the man to be kissed. I thought perhaps this might be the standard Western form. |
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Illysook
Joined: 30 Jun 2008
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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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Lots of Americans kiss on the cheek, especially among family members. This would include my own family and some of my close friends. Most of my hippie friends stick with a hug. I have one friend with whom a double hug is the tradition. |
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blackjack

Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Location: anyang
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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 6:51 pm Post subject: Re: Kissing and Formal Greetings |
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Cornfed wrote: |
I'm doing a lesson on formal greetings. I pointed out that in NZ it's currently fashionable for men to kiss women and women to kiss each other when greeting, which the class seemed to find extraordinary. Is this the tradition in other Western countries, and what other greeting rituals are common? |
I am from NZ and I have never done that as a greeting. I did just read today that it has spread from England to Australia, so maybe its new?
My gf aunt and sister keeps kissing me on the lips as a good bye and I am really not comfortable with it |
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Cornfed
Joined: 14 Mar 2008
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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 6:54 pm Post subject: Re: Kissing and Formal Greetings |
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blackjack wrote: |
I am from NZ and I have never done that as a greeting. I did just read today that it has spread from England to Australia, so maybe its new? |
It seems to have come in in the last 3 or 4 years. I think these things go in cycles.
As to the comment on hugging above, I've never known this to be done on formal occasions. |
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sjk1128
Joined: 04 Feb 2005
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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 7:04 pm Post subject: More on greetings |
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I used to live in Italy where I regularly kissed my friends, male and female, on the cheek - but just one - when meeting and parting. However, I had a friend from Brazil who always kissed me on both cheeks. She said otherwise we'd feel "uneven."
Aside from the kissing, which my students in Korea find surprising and funny, it's interesting to talk about handshakes. Where I'm from in the US, people usually shake hands very firmly, really squeezing them. Especially for men, it seems to be a measure of trustworthiness or masculinity. Instead, in Italy when I met new people, we shook hands very lightly, barely grasping the fingers. Indeed, in Italian you "give" someone your hand, you don't shake it or squeeze it. I've always assumed other cultures whose languages are closely related to Latin are similar to Italy in greeting customs - and other English speaking countries are more similar to the US, but that may not be true. Usually, when I meet someone new I just do whatever he/she does in terms of how hard to squeeze, how close to get, etc. |
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ernie
Joined: 05 Aug 2006 Location: asdfghjk
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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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yuck! the dead fish handshake is the worst. |
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Cornfed
Joined: 14 Mar 2008
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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 7:24 pm Post subject: Re: More on greetings |
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sjk1128 wrote: |
Aside from the kissing, which my students in Korea find surprising and funny, it's interesting to talk about handshakes. Where I'm from in the US, people usually shake hands very firmly, really squeezing them. Especially for men, it seems to be a measure of trustworthiness or masculinity. |
Yeah, that's another thing I covered. It's my impression that men shake hands with other men as stated, but shake hands with women by gripping the fingers lightly, mainly to avoid hurting them. Not sure about how women shake hands with women. |
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DrOctagon

Joined: 11 Jun 2008 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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I kiss most of my female friends on the cheek back home (in Chicago). It started as a thing among hispanics and Italians, but I think it caught on with whiteys. My family is Puerto Rican and guys and girls all kiss eachother on the cheek. Guys just hug or shake hands firmly, depending on how close of a connection we have. I hardly ever see these types of physical greetings among my white friends' families. In my experience, white families seem not to be as connected as Hispanic families. I've had a few white friends tell me that they never get homesick (the ones living here).
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poet13
Joined: 22 Jan 2006 Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.
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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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A long time ago in Toronto I used to see this girl about once every 18 months. Sex was the normal greeting. I say this because I distinctly remember sitting on a chair in the kitchen putting my socks on afterwards and asking, "So, how have you been?" |
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jkelly80

Joined: 13 Jun 2007 Location: you boys like mexico?
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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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I've always heard it's rude for a man to extend his hand to a woman--he should wait for it to be offered. |
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Sleepy in Seoul

Joined: 15 May 2004 Location: Going in ever decreasing circles until I eventually disappear up my own fundament - in NZ
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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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jkelly80 wrote: |
I've always heard it's rude for a man to extend his hand to a woman--he should wait for it to be offered. |
That is what I was taught too.
OP, you might want to mention to your students that in the world men hugging other men would appear to be the sole preserve of gays. And Americans. |
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