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[newteacher]

If anyone wants to watch it NY Times has it live.

http://elections.nytimes.com/2008/president/debates/second-presidential-debate.html

[aka Dave]

Obama smoked the old man. Game over. This thing is toast.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/7/222320/080/32/623383

[Gatsby]

Yeah, the CNN panel seemed to agree. Game over.

While that is a slight overstatement, it sure looks that way. The fly in the ointment is how well the polls will match up with those who actually vote. This is an unusual election.

McCain seems to be aging in front of our eyes. Think what he would look like in four years.

The part that stuck out in my mind was McCain saying he would consider Warren Buffett for Treasury Secretary. And then Obama pointing out that he is an adviser to his campaign. Buffet would go a long, long way to reassuring the public, given that he saw this coming five years ago.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/2817995.stm

But here's a funny line, pointed out by the Doonesbury site, and others:

"I'll get Osama bin Laden, my friends. I'll get him. I know how to get him. I'll get him no matter what and I know how to do it."

-- John McCain

http://www.doonesbury.com/strip/dailydose/

http://ofrevelation.blogspot.com/2008/10/am-i-alone-here.html

I wonder if he will search for bin Laden on the golf courses, like O.J.?

I have the feeling he will have plenty of time to search for Osama next year.

[newteacher]

How to you think the conservatives are going to feel about McCain's plan to add another $300 billion to the bailout to buy up mortgages? It's almost like he doesn't even want to win anymore. I know he just came up with that to try to get some moderate votes, but what good are a few moderate votes if he alienates his entire base?

[BreakfastInBed]

Obama smoked him? I just finished watching the debate, the first I've seen, and it didn't appear a clear victory for either to me. Both will play well to their respective supporters I imagine, but for those on the fence neither stole the show. Both were compelling, and incoherent at times.

Obama had the upper hand in tax related stuff, but McCain edged him out in foreign affairs sophistication. Obama exhibited strength and vigor; McCain gave off the air of wisdom and experience. Youth vs. age, how novel.

There was one argument that I found persuasive. The point goes to McCain. America has some critical, potentially catastrophic, problems that need to be dealt with NOW. If these problems are to be sincerely dealt with it will require honest bi-partisanship. McCain's argument that he has a clear history of not only going against, but taking on his own party, and that Obama doesn't, was a real trump card to me.

Not that I'm endorsing McCain, just calling it as I see it.

[newteacher]

How much of a joke has Fox News become??

The Fox News poll has 86% saying McCain won to 12% for Obama...

http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html

Click the "Successful Showdown" video link.

Just another reason to hate Sean Hannity.

[BreakfastInBed]

[bangbayed]

Issues are an important aspect in debates, no doubt about it, BreakfastInBed. But I think people are as much or sometimes more swayed by personality and temperament. McCain came off as an angry grumpy irritable old man while Obama seemed more mature (ironically), responsible, level-headed and rational. And he gave some good responses to McCain as well. When McCain accused him of "talking loud" and Obama came back with the "bomb bomb bomb Iran" quote as well as the references to North Korea other places McCain would attack, it was very masterfully done. Nevermind Palin, the thought of McCain in the Oval Office after tonight's debate probably caused a few people to think twice.

[BreakfastInBed]

[Ya-ta Boy]