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ddeubel
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Captain Corea
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| I thougth that documentary was called 'North korea: A day in the life' |
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Typhoon
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| Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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| I showed this video and a couple of other docu. on North Korea to my senior current affairs class and my sophomore movie class a few years ago. They were really shocked. It went against a lot of what they had learned about their brothers and sisters to the North. Maybe some of thse PD programs should start airing these kind of programs to better education Koreans about how things are in the North. |
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ddeubel
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| Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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Captain,
You are right but there is an updated interview at the end (not too interesting I admit).
Typhoon,
Also right! One reason for posting is that maybe others will use this with the colleagues they work with or adult classes and begin some real constructive dialogue and breaking down of certain beliefs....
DD |
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nobbyken
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Location: Yongin ^^
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| Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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Fascinating program on the TV last week about South Koreans taking a tour package to a small city in China right on border, of a 30m wide river, with NK.
Mothers got to see a son from 52 years ago, and the nephew of one guy swam across to China at night to bring news of his fathers family. He enjoyed a huge meal before swimming back.
Can't remember what channel, but it'll probably be repeated soon.
Kim JongIl: If your reading this, I'm only joking and stop reading Daves at work.
ps- Get well soon. Thunderbirds rule OK. |
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bassexpander
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Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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wylies99
Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:00 am Post subject: |
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Captain,
You are right but there is an updated interview at the end (not too interesting I admit).
Typhoon,
Also right! One reason for posting is that maybe others will use this with the colleagues they work with or adult classes and begin some real constructive dialogue and breaking down of certain beliefs....
DD |
Serious questions-What English lesson does that video teach? Or is it supposed to be a political lesson? |
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DavePuff
Joined: 01 Jan 2005
Location: Daegu, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:29 am Post subject: |
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He enjoyed a huge meal before swimming back.
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He shouldn't be swimming on a full stomach... its dangerous  |
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ddeubel
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 2:05 am Post subject: |
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| Serious questions-What English lesson does that video teach? Or is it supposed to be a political lesson? |
Wylie,
One of the great facets of our job is that we also get to teach "thinking". Meaning, if you do it right, you can get people thinking about life and their place in it. This is the core of any "teaching".....the subject swirls around this...
Also, based on my own experience, we don't teach what we think we teach. Meaning, 95% of what student's learn is NOT what we are waving in the front yard but what is coming in through the back door.
DD |
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wylies99
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 2:11 am Post subject: |
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| Serious questions-What English lesson does that video teach? Or is it supposed to be a political lesson? |
Wylie,
One of the great facets of our job is that we also get to teach "thinking". Meaning, if you do it right, you can get people thinking about life and their place in it. This is the core of any "teaching".....the subject swirls around this...
Also, based on my own experience, we don't teach what we think we teach. Meaning, 95% of what student's learn is NOT what we are waving in the front yard but what is coming in through the back door.
DD |
It's advisable to avoid political discussions in the workplace- with bosses, co-workers, and students.
You do whatever you think is right, but I'd rather be safe than sorry. |
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Typhoon
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The senior class was a current affairs English class. What the videos taught was the situation in North Korea that none of the students knew. I think that is a pretty important topic for a current affairs class. The sophomore class was a movie class and the videos (I used more than one)served as a documentary and a good example of propaganda.
Teaching at a university allows me to teach classes as I see fit. No one looking over my shoulder. No one questioning methods unless they get too crazy. It is great. I prefer to stir things up and challenge people to really think. I believe that my students improve their conversation, listening, writing, presentation, and thinking ability in these classes. Am I teaching convential English? No, and I'm glad I don't. In my junior class this year we spent the first half of the semester discussing points from Randy Pausch's "Last Lecture". We will spend the 2nd half discussing critical thinking and teaching philosophies (the major is English education). Again, I'm not teaching convential English conversation, but through my experience my students have improved themselves quite a bit and maybe even learned some things other than English. As Randy Pausch says, "headfakes are where the real learning takes place." Give your students some more headfakes, you will be surprised what different teaching methods will produce in your students.
I hope that kind of answers the question. |
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ddeubel
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It's advisable to avoid political discussions in the workplace- with bosses, co-workers, and students.
You do whatever you think is right, but I'd rather be safe than sorry. |
Wylie,
In general I agree. Same with religion and quite a few other sensitive topics.
But I also agree with Typhoon's comments. It all depends on the group. You the teacher decide and also decide if you can handle "said" topics with the appropriate delicacy and moderation. Takes a lot of experience and teaching ability.
I probably wouldn't use this or this topic as any part of my own lessons - given my students (teachers). But I do let my students know about it and point it out for them and make it available on our course webpage. I did put the photos of N.Korea up during our class break time. They can watch and make up their own minds. I think this is the valuable thing an instructor can do - inform students of content that might both "spark" and at the same time, help them learn.
Cheers,
DD
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sojusucks
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| Serious questions-What English lesson does that video teach? Or is it supposed to be a political lesson? |
Wylie,
One of the great facets of our job is that we also get to teach "thinking". Meaning, if you do it right, you can get people thinking about life and their place in it. This is the core of any "teaching".....the subject swirls around this...
Also, based on my own experience, we don't teach what we think we teach. Meaning, 95% of what student's learn is NOT what we are waving in the front yard but what is coming in through the back door.
DD |
How is showing students one video not "waving in the front yard?"
The usual method used by most reputable university courses involve providing multiple perspectives in different formats, i.e. video, articles, and songs. Then the students should think about why that material was created, such as encouraging national unity/strenght/production, nationalism, or propaganda. Hopefully, the students will be able to understand that the real situation is somewhere inbetween what the sources are actually reporting (this is true in media in many countries), which should come "through the back door."
Remember, let your students exercise critical thinking instead of having them accept the one view that you present them. |
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