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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
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 Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 1:01 am Post subject: Why do Republican millionaires fund marxist terrorism? |
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But the relationship between Obama and Ayers went deeper, ran longer and was more political than Obama -- and his surrogates -- have revealed, documents and interviews show.
A review of board minutes and records by CNN show Obama crossed paths repeatedly with Ayers at board meetings of the Annenberg Challenge Project.
The Annenberg Foundation gave the project a $50 million grant to match local private funds to improve schools, and Ayers fought to bring the grant to Chicago, according to participants and project records.
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And just who exactly was the shadowy mastermind of anti-American terrorism acting as paymaster for these blood-crazed leftist fanatics? None other than Walter Annenberg, the founder of that nefarious underground journal of radical polemics, TV Guide. Not to mention Nixons ambasador to the UK.
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He became a champion of public television, acquiring many awards, including the Presidential Medal of Freedom from Reagan and the Linus Pauling Medal for Humanitarianism. In 1989, he established the Annenberg Foundation, and 1993, created the Annenberg Challenge, a US$500 million, five-year reform effort and the largest single gift ever made to American public education.
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And when he died, in 2002, George W. Bush had this to say about the man...
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In a statement yesterday, President Bush called Mr. Annenberg ''a shining example of generosity, patriotism and dedication to serving others'' and praised his ''commitment to education reform'' and his support for scholarships.
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Imagine, the POTUS hailing a paymaster of marxist terrorists in such language. What does that say about Bush's patriotism?
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bangbayed
Joined: 01 Dec 2005
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| Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 2:41 am Post subject: |
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| I can't wait until the next debate. McCain has no choice but to bring up this 'issue' and I'm sure the Obama campaign is not only going to light up this straw man but stick it where it should have stayed. |
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Milwaukiedave
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| Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 5:54 am Post subject: |
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Someone should start asking about the Palin's connection with AIP or McCain's connection with a white supremacists group, an Oregon Legislator who praised someone for shooting an abortion doctor or maybe his tie to a lobbyist for apartheid.
If you have a skeleton in the closet in terms of associations, it goes both ways. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 10:48 am Post subject: |
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No, no, no. Barack should not reply to this nonsense with any of his own nonsense.
Keep talking about his platform, his ideas, his issues.
He already has this in the bag. What he wants to do now is build support for the legislation and proposals he'll have to pass through Congress in the next year. |
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On the other hand
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| Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 11:06 am Post subject: |
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No, no, no. Barack should not reply to this nonsense with any of his own nonsense.
Keep talking about his platform, his ideas, his issues.
He already has this in the bag. What he wants to do now is build support for the legislation and proposals he'll have to pass through Congress in the next year. |
I would agree with that, UNLESS the Ayers attacks start bleeding support away from the Democrats. Then, it might be strategically advantagous to bring up the AIP, Muthee, etc.
And even now, I don't think it's a bad idea for independent bloggers, YouTubers etc to harp on about the fringier aspects of the Republican leaders' backgrounds.
And Barack himself has already started mentioning the Annenberg connection, in order to put his involvement with Ayers in some broader context. That's a good idea as well. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 11:16 am Post subject: |
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I would agree with that, UNLESS the Ayers attacks start bleeding support away from the Democrats. Then, it might be strategically advantagous to bring up the AIP, Muthee, etc. |
Missouri, Indiana, and North Carolina are swing states right now. Obama just has to watch the McCain campaign implode. Its happening.
The current intellectual conservative blogosphere is shaking its heads in despair. And they're recommending a different tack. Plouffe pwns Mike Schmidt.
Let me assure you Commonwealthers, as I did before with McCain's post-convention bounce, that Obama has this locked up. The US could sustain a terrorist attack at this point, and Obama would still win. |
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On the other hand
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| Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 11:33 am Post subject: |
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| Let me assure you Commonwealthers, as I did before with McCain's post-convention bounce, that Obama has this locked up. |
You don't really need to convince me of that. Granted, I'm still not entirely 100% certain about how this will end up, but that's not really related to any belief that those stupid Americans will be forever duped by the racist war-mongering Republicans. It's got more to do with just how off-the-wall this whole political season has been in the US, and an "anything can happen" atmosphere that I see in play.
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| The US could sustain a terrorist attack at this point, and Obama would still win. |
Eh, I'm not so sure of that. I can think of a few ways that a terrorist attack could send a lot of swing voters over to the GOP. I won't give you my outline, since I don't want to take the "credit" for having predicted any attacks that may occur. For now, I will just reiterate my theory that your average Al Qaeda or Al Qaeda wannabe actually WANTS a Republican victory. You can probably figure out the rest. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with Kuros. I don't think there is anything that could happen that would make McCain electable now. Obama has come across as calm in a crisis. McCain hasn't. George Will is close to saying that McCain shouldn't be elected.
Both Obama and Biden threw down a challenge to McCain to mention Ayers in the debate next week. Either Obama is bluffing to look strong or he really does have a comeback that he thinks will be effective.
I am concerned with how passionate things are getting on the right. The tone is getting too close to '68 for my comfort. |
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On the other hand
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| Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:08 am Post subject: |
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Both Obama and Biden threw down a challenge to McCain to mention Ayers in the debate next week. Either Obama is bluffing to look strong or he really does have a comeback that he thinks will be effective.
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Well, if Obama and Biden REALLY want to hear about Ayers in the debate, there's nothing stopping them from mentioning him themselves. So I suspect that this is basically just a bluff, and they're banking that McCain will not have the guts to take them up on their challenge, thus making himself look like a gutless blowhard.
But Obama probably does have some snappy comeback on hand in case McCain chooses to get into that subject. Personally, I think the Annenberg stuff would probably do the trick. |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:54 am Post subject: |
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The GOP/terrorist connection deepens...
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This morning John McCain put out a list of 100 former ambassadors who are supporting his campaign. Number two is Leonore Annenberg, the wife of Ambassador William Annenberg, the founder of the Annenberg Institute of Reform, which funded the Annenberg Challenge, which once had two famous board members: former "domestic terrorist" William Ayers and Sen. Barack Obama.
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Seriously though. If there is anyone who really deserves to be raked over the coals in all of this, it's Bill Ayers. He goes from being a radical, on-the-lam, bomb-planting revolutionary, to sitting on the board of some right-wing tycoon's vanity project? Talk about selling out to the man.
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