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[Adventurer]

Frankly, I am not sure how many fetuses are aborted. In an ideal world, there would be no abortions at all. Of course, for those who read Freakeconomics, the author claimed that abortion led to a decline in the crime rate in the U.S, but I am not sure about that. It seems far fetched.

At any rate, some (not all) in the GOP camp vociferously oppose abortion, but they also oppose teaching young people about condoms. The use of condoms could prevent so many pregnancies and the spread of diseases, isn't that correct?

Also, there aren't really that much in terms of social programmes for the lower middle class in the U.S., and if a woman ends up as a single mother are people who oppose abortions going to help her out or are they willing to pay higher taxes to ensure that happens? Certainly not. I believe George Carlin once (may he R.I.P.) said that anti-abortion protests seem to often to care about fetuses so much, but after the children are born they are not interested in their welfare that much. I think there's something to be said for that. Again, I am not saying all those who oppose abortion think that way. There are plenty of people who are liberal when it comes unions, funding social programs, but strenuously oppose abortion.

I can't claim to know everything about this debate, but couldn't you argue so many people in the U.S. due to a lack of access to health care, a lack of universal health care far more than fetuses get aborted, as sad as such abortions can be? I think sometimes the abortion debate is too single minded and simple-minded. At any rate, those who oppose abortions should be consistent and not oppose the use of condoms. And people make mistakes whether they're young people who are sons of GOP card carrying people or the sons of officials from the Democratic Party.

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/11/campaign.wrap/index.html

[Jandar]

Shouldn't this be in the evolution thread?

I mean are we beyond this?

[Adventurer]

[mises]

How about some prevention too. Free birth control, and a female doesn't need to go to a dr. to get it. A pharm should suffice. Right now, an uninsured woman is looking at 70-80$/month. Or 10 hours work at "working class" wages. Just give it to them for free. The aggregate savings would be massive.

[fiveeagles]

Think if 50,000,000 babies were killed and thrown into your local garbage piles. Conservatives look at abortion the same way. Basically we are killing babies and throwing them out like waste.

One of, and could be the greatest injustice this world has ever seen. All because of ignorance, arrogance and selfishness.

[Adventurer]

Well, in 2001 there were approximately 1.4 million abortions. If we want to reduce the number, it would help to give women more access to health care, birth control, and for people to be educated about condoms and the like. However, the right opposes this, and then talks about how some on the Left are horrible people and baby killers like Obama. Those who accuse Obama and others of being baby killers are not promoting an environment where women have access to easy birth control, and they are against teaching safe sex. They are thus creating the environment in which abortions are more prevalent than they should be. They need to make up their mind in terms of where they stand.

[Jandar]

So why discuss the accepted reality, face facts abortion is here to stay.

Let's look at the new trend.

Should we be allowing premature babies to live in all cases?

That is were the debate is now trending.

Seriously folks is it ethical to use technology to prolong the life of every baby born, even those with the most severe birth defects?

Believe you me this discussion makes the abortion discussion look like a simple game of rock paper scissors.

"To justify this practice, has been proposed that newborns need not be regarded as persons"

Hey now!

http://www.ethicsandmedicine.com/19/2/19-2-bellieni.htm

[Milwaukiedave]