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The OTHER WHITE GUY in the same subway car
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If you sit across from him...do you...
Strike up a conversation across the space
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pretend he's not there
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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 6:50 am    Post subject: The OTHER WHITE GUY in the same subway car Reply with quote

So you're in the subway...a regular busy one in Seoul...probably the #6 line (same line as Itaewon).

You enter the subway...there is a white guy in the same train. There is ONLY one seat left in the train. It's directly across the white guy.

Do you...
Sit across from him?

If you sit across from him...do you...

a) Strike up a conversation across the space or b) pretend he's not there?
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butlerian



Joined: 04 Sep 2006
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd respect his privacy, but if he engaged me in conversation then of course I'd be cordial.
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mountainous



Joined: 04 Sep 2007
Location: Los Angeles

PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If he's hot, ask to sit on his lap
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wanderingsalsero



Joined: 23 Dec 2006
Location: Houston, TX.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:20 am    Post subject: Hell yes, I'd talk to him/her Reply with quote

I've frankly been very surprised how oblivious to the presence of other westerners a large percentage of the westerner-looking people I see are.

I really don't buy this stuff about respecting their space.

I think we all share a certain sense of adventure just being over here. We share that in common..for starters. And there could be other stuff we'd have in common too.

I most usually speak or at least give a nod or salute to anybody who looks westerner I see who's reasonably close to me whether it be in a subway or a store. Depends on the situation of course.

Point is, I think Korea can be lonely enough if all you try to do is make Korean friends. It amazes me that some foreigners who i think, odds on, are teachers....how snooty they act.
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Atavistic



Joined: 22 May 2006
Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Except for ONE time, every time I've talked to a Western man on the subway, I've been hit on.

So I ignore them unless they say something directly.
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Treefarmer



Joined: 29 May 2007

PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i smile at other westeners, but i don't generally strike up conversations on the subway, i dunno, i don't mind people doing it to me, but it's kind of an empty experience

"oh hi, we're both foriegn"

where are you from?
how long have you been in korea?
do you like it?
ok see ya
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brandonhill31



Joined: 02 May 2007
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i agree on the empty experience, but i do it simply to meet new people. if you work in jamsil you know people form jamsil and maybe a couple others, but its nice to make a whole new set of friends through one stranger you met on the subway. does that make sense or am i being stupid?
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laogaiguk



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea

PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It depends. If it's the guy picking his nose and eating it, well, no. Or the guy sitting in the handicapped area, no. But if he seems normal and is relatively close, then I will smile, say hello and even have a converstation if it comes to that.
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SuperFly



Joined: 09 Jul 2003
Location: In the doghouse

PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 8:17 am    Post subject: Re: The OTHER WHITE GUY in the same subway car Reply with quote

Tiger Beer wrote:
So you're in the subway...a regular busy one in Seoul...probably the #6 line (same line as Itaewon).

You enter the subway...there is a white guy in the same train. There is ONLY one seat left in the train. It's directly across the white guy.

Do you...
Sit across from him?

If you sit across from him...do you...

a) Strike up a conversation across the space or b) pretend he's not there?



Funny, this happened to me two days ago. I was sitting on the end seat and he was standing up. Guy next to me stands up to leave and white guy sits down next to me. It was obvious that he was a teacher, but I was wearing a suit with company pin and badge. I was reading my book and he didn't say anything to me, so I just kept my mouth shut and kept reading. He got off at Itaewon station.

But yesterday I saw a guy that I recognized from Yonsei Korean Language Institute last semester and I talked to him...he was pretty cordial (level 7 Korean, yowsa...)

And a few months ago a guy was sitting across from me reading Jared Diamond: Guns Germs and Steel and I've been meaning to read the book (It's been on my shelf for almost two years now but I haven't gotten around to it) and I struck up a conversation with him about the book just as I was exiting the train because I didn't want him to feel uncomfortable and interrupt his reading.

See, once you start the conversation...I feel like if we talk for two or three minutes, then we should/have to keep on talking till one of us gets off the train. You know what I mean? I feel like that because if I talk to you for two minutes and then we both go silent, its uncomfortable.

So I always have a book to read on the train...
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Ginormousaurus



Joined: 27 Jul 2006
Location: 700 Ft. Pulpit

PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't strike up a conversation. Just because we're both foreigners isn't enough for me to want to talk. It's not that I'm antisocial, but I have things to do whilst riding the subway (I spend about 80 minutes a day on the green line). I study Korean, listen to audiobooks or play my Nintendo.

And Superfly hit it on the head:

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See, once you start the conversation...I feel like if we talk for two or three minutes, then we should/have to keep on talking till one of us gets off the train. You know what I mean? I feel like that because if I talk to you for two minutes and then we both go silent, its uncomfortable.
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caniff



Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map

PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

butlerian wrote:
I'd respect his privacy, but if he engaged me in conversation then of course I'd be cordial.


What if his attempt at conversation was less than cordial. For instance, what if he said "What the hell are you looking at, putz?".

How would you respond to that?
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butlerian



Joined: 04 Sep 2006
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

caniff wrote:
butlerian wrote:
I'd respect his privacy, but if he engaged me in conversation then of course I'd be cordial.


What if his attempt at conversation was less than cordial. For instance, what if he said "What the hell are you looking at, putz?".

How would you respond to that?


That's an interesting one. I'd probably suggest that the subway is not the best place for that kind of engagement, and would he prefer to take it outside.
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bejarano-korea



Joined: 13 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

caniff wrote:
butlerian wrote:
I'd respect his privacy, but if he engaged me in conversation then of course I'd be cordial.


What if his attempt at conversation was less than cordial. For instance, what if he said "What the hell are you looking at, putz?".

How would you respond to that?


'Not facking much' and laugh in his face Laughing
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butlerian



Joined: 04 Sep 2006
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bejarano-korea wrote:
caniff wrote:
butlerian wrote:
I'd respect his privacy, but if he engaged me in conversation then of course I'd be cordial.


What if his attempt at conversation was less than cordial. For instance, what if he said "What the hell are you looking at, putz?".

How would you respond to that?


'Not facking much' and laugh in his face Laughing


Better. I like it!
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bejarano-korea



Joined: 13 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

butlerian wrote:
bejarano-korea wrote:
caniff wrote:
butlerian wrote:
I'd respect his privacy, but if he engaged me in conversation then of course I'd be cordial.


What if his attempt at conversation was less than cordial. For instance, what if he said "What the hell are you looking at, putz?".

How would you respond to that?


'Not facking much' and laugh in his face Laughing


Better. I like it!


Best way to deal with agressive divs I have always found. Laughing
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