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Using schools for a free flight to Korea.

 
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RChrisman



Joined: 16 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 4:42 pm    Post subject: Using schools for a free flight to Korea. Reply with quote

Hypothetically, what would happen if someone took a job at a school that pre-paid their flight over and decided not to teach once they arrived?
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The_Source



Joined: 09 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 4:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Using schools for a free flight to Korea. Reply with quote

RChrisman wrote:
Hypothetically, what would happen if someone took a job at a school that pre-paid their flight over and decided not to teach once they arrived?


That somebody would have to repay the school for the cost of the ticket.
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kprrok



Joined: 06 Apr 2004
Location: KC

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ass clown who did that would also put more strain on the honest teachers here or looking to come here because fewer schools would be willing to pre-pay a flight because of the risk.

If you did this, you would be committing fraud (signing a contract and getting the VISA/ticket with no intention of following through on the contract) and would be forced to pay it back or risk criminal proceedings.
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laogaiguk



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is stealing. It is done, but most people who do that then go to China or Japan where they don't pay the ticket. I have never heard of one who stayed here. Either way, even for Korea, that is dishonest.
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Teelo



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Wellington, NZ

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I once considered it, for a cheaper flight to China, but I'd have to pay for a korean visa and a set of documents for that...
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DrunkenMaster



Joined: 04 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hypothetically speaking, what would happen is that person would be an asshole.
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Teachurrrr



Joined: 21 May 2008
Location: Parts Unknown

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:27 pm    Post subject: Or ... Reply with quote

RChrisman, your hypothetical question will rattle the cages of some people because of the unethical implication and possible future repercussions for teachers currently working in Korea or those who might in the future. Yet, we are in Korea where the unethical can sometimes be akin to an extreme sport.

Anyway, to answer your question, I think the outcome depends on what you plan to do "hypothetically" after you arrive.

1) If you took a job at a school (complete the visa paper chase, interview, etc), arrived on a pre-paid flight, then decided not to teach in lieu of working at another school in Korea, then you let your prospective school negotiate with your contracted school and see what happens. It's usually a matter of negotiation and compensation for your costs.

2) If you took a job at a school (complete the visa paper chase, interview, etc), arrived on a pre-paid flight, then decided not to teach at the school so you can hangout and/or do private lessons, I guess this might cause you some problems since you would be on a work visa through your contracted school and would have to leave the country, via Japan, and come back on a tourist visa. Also, you might have a negative report issued by your school to immigration which might make it difficult to get work visas in Korea in the future even if a school signs a contract with you.

3) If you took a job at a school (complete the visa paper chase, interview, etc), arrived on a pre-paid flight, then bailed to travel to another country, I don't think they can do anything to you except report it to immigration that their teacher left (did a runner which can be a common occurance here). Though this would be fraud, I don't think it would follow you outside Korea. Inside Korea, maybe or maybe not.

I don't know if this helps, but it's my best guess. Cheers!
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TeeBee



Joined: 18 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kprrok wrote:
The ass clown who did that would also put more strain on the honest teachers here or looking to come here because fewer schools would be willing to pre-pay a flight because of the risk.


Yeah. And because of people who have done this, I almost wasn't able to get a job here, because I couldn't afford the flight. It was NOT fun asking everyone I knew if I could borrow the flight money, just because some idiots before me decided to skip-out on schools that prepaid their flights.
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R-Seoul



Joined: 23 Aug 2006
Location: your place

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn�t someone once post on here about how he showed up at the airport and was met by an irate hagwan owner who mistook him for his own teacher, apparently the teacher in question had a pre-paid flight from the states with a stop over in Japan the guy then apparently got off in Tokyo and never took the onward flight to Korea.
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Evanzinho



Joined: 10 Apr 2008
Location: California

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teelo wrote:
I once considered it, for a cheaper flight to China, but I'd have to pay for a korean visa and a set of documents for that...

Still cheaper than paying for a ticket to China from North America Twisted Evil
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Suwon23



Joined: 24 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't understand how this is possible. Unlike Japan, in Korea your visa is tied to one employer. Even if you don't feel like working for them, you'd have to get a letter of release to get the job you really want. Bottom line you'd still have to pay the piper one way or another. Just using an employer for a plane ticket (i.e. visa) doesn't sound possible to me.
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sojourner1



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's downright scamming to use a school for a free ticket to Asia and then up and leave them soon after arrival or just sneak off out of Korea.

It's not worth it. 1. A one way ticket home from Asia is not much less (if any) than a RT ticket to anywhere in Asia. 2. It's wrong to scam. 3. It destroys trust of those coming over to honestly teach and pay their dues to a contract.
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crusher_of_heads



Joined: 23 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is dishonest, but not nearly as scumbag asshole quality as hagwons firing people 11 months in-I would not do it, but if you do

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lebowski



Joined: 30 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you read the thread about the guy that has to pay back half of the airfare if he leaves before the 9 month mark. This is because of jerk offs like yourself. I can't believe you even ask this question. Do you have any moral values whatsoever?
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Zaria32



Joined: 04 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the things that would happen is that you would prove to yourself, and to everyone you told, that you are dishonest and without honor.
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