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chemdah



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:45 am    Post subject: RE: Obama WHAT IF......? Reply with quote

(Apology if this has already been posted somewhere, but it makes for an interesting perspective)

What if the Obamas had paraded five children across the stage,
including a three month old infant and an unwed, pregnant teenage
daughter?

What if Barack Obama finished fifth from the bottom of his graduating
class?

What if McCain had only married once, and Obama was the divorcee?

What if Obama was the candidate who left his first wife after a
severe disfiguring car accident, when she no longer measured up to
his standards?

What if Obama had met his second wife in a bar and had a long affair
while he was still married?

What if Michelle Obama was the wife who not only became addicted to
pain killers but also acquired them illegally through her charitable
organization?

What if Obama had been a member of the Keating Five? (The Keating
Five were five United States Senators accused of corruption in 1989,
igniting a major political scandal as part of the larger Savings and
Loan crisis of the late 1980s and early 1990s.)

What if Obama couldn't read from a teleprompter?

What if Obama was the one who had military experience that included
discipline problems and a record of crashing seven planes? And was
never given a command position.

What if Obama was the one known to display publicly, on many
occasions, a serious anger management problem?

What if Michelle Obama's family had made their money from beer
distribution?

What if the Obamas had adopted a white child?

This is what racism does. It covers up, rationalizes and minimizes
positive qualities in one candidate and emphasizes negative qualities
in another when there is a color difference.

Educational Background:

Barack Obama:
Columbia University - B.A. Political Science with a Specialization in
International Relations.
Harvard - Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude

Joseph Biden:
University of Delaware - B.A. in History and B.A. in Political
Science.
Syracuse University College of Law - Juris Doctor (J.D.)

vs.

John McCain:
United States Naval Academy - Class rank: 894 of 899

Sarah Palin:
Hawaii Pacific University - 1 semester
North Idaho College - 2 semesters - general study University of
Idaho - 2 semesters - journalism Matanuska-Susitna College - 1
semester University of Idaho - 3 semesters - B.A. in Journalism

Education isn't everything, but this is about the two highest offices
in the land as well as our standing in the world.

Pass it on.
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Gatsby



Joined: 09 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bill Maher made a very good point when he was on Larry King over the weekend.

He said Barack Obama is the Jackie Robinson of presidential politics.

Jackie Robinson had to be absolutely perfect. He could never show his temper. He always had to be the perfect gentleman. If he had made the slightest slip up, certain people would have crucified him. He didn't, and Blacks were accepted into major league baseball and other sports.

Obama has to be perfect. And apparently he understands the analogy. If any of these parallel universe scenarios had occurred, Obama would have been a fringe candidate, like Jesse Jackson, tolerated by the Democrats, but ignored by the Republicans.

On the other hand, the national press would have made an effort to treat him fairly, if he had any of these flaws, and may have gone overboard to avoid an accusations of racial bias. But the damage would have been done.

Another side to this, though, is Gov. Patterson of NY. When he took office, he quickly admitted to some extensive extramarital affairs. He's Black, and he's also blind. He got it out in the open, and the matter was over with quickly. Everyone agreed that private indiscretions are mostly irrelevant. So the people and press of New York handled this all very well.

Could Patterson one day run for President? If Obama blazes the way, possibly.

But Obama's problem is not just that he's black; it's the Republican's hypocricy toward Democrats. Any Democrat who had these skeletons in the closet would have been a dead duck.

The problem with Republicans are they are consummate hypocrites. They lambasted Clinton for trying pot, but the elected Bush, who was an alcoholic and a heavy cocaine abuser. And then there's Gingrich. And that gay Senator from Idaho. The list goes on and on and on.
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Jandar



Joined: 11 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

First off Jackie Robinson was squeaky clean Obama has a former weather underground leader as a friend, that ain't Jackie Robinson clean.

What's wrong with Newt, he didn't do nothing bad?

The guy from Idaho ain't gay he's on the downlow.

Twisted Evil
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bangbayed



Joined: 01 Dec 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jandar wrote:
First off Jackie Robinson was squeaky clean Obama has a former weather underground leader as a friend, that ain't Jackie Robinson clean.

What's wrong with Newt, he didn't do nothing bad?

The guy from Idaho ain't gay he's on the downlow.

Twisted Evil


The Ayers BS is so lame even Colin Powell cited it as a deal breaker against McCain. Truth be told, if Bill Ayers was my prof at university, I'd have thought it would've been pretty cool. I guess I'm a terrorist. Rolling Eyes

So what if Obama made his announcement to run for his first public office at a party hosted by Ayers and his wife in 1995, twenty five years after Ayers was in the Weathermen, and had reformed? By that time Ayers had become part of the political/academic establishment. It's a total non-issue.
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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jandar wrote:
First off Jackie Robinson was squeaky clean Obama has a former weather underground leader as a friend, that ain't Jackie Robinson clean.

What's wrong with Newt, he didn't do nothing bad?

The guy from Idaho ain't gay he's on the downlow.

Twisted Evil

Newt has been married three times...each marriage he was dating another woman and divorced the other to marry the next very soon after. The first wife was in the hospital recovering from cancer when he presented the divorce papers to her.

So, yeah, if that doesn't bother you, then I guess Newt is fine as some kind of American morality enforcer, which he seems to think of himself as.
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Gatsby



Joined: 09 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And then there's William Bennett. Another paragon of Republican virtue.

The difference is that many radicals from the 60s eventually grew up and had the honesty to change their views when appropriate.

Anyone remember Jerry Rubin? He became something of a capitalist.
Quote:

Success as a capitalist

After the Vietnam War ended, Rubin became an entrepreneur and businessman. He was an early investor in Apple Computer.[citation needed]

In the 1980s he embarked on a debating tour with Abbie Hoffman entitled "Yippie versus Yuppie." Rubin's argument in the debates was that activism was hard work, that abuse of drugs, sex and private property had made the counter-culture "a scary society in itself," and that "wealth creation is the real American revolution�what we need is an infusion of capital into the depressed areas of our country." A political cartoon of the time showed two sketches of Rubin�first as a hippie, wearing a button that said "Chicago 7" and then as a businessman in a suit, wearing a button that said "S&P 500."[citation needed]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Rubin

What's the difference?

Hypocrisy.

If you don't understand, look it up.
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Tiger Beer



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jandar wrote:
First off Jackie Robinson was squeaky clean Obama has a former weather underground leader as a friend, that ain't Jackie Robinson clean.

Obama was 8 years old when Ayers was part of the Weather Underground. There was NO CONNECTION with Obama with THAT whatsoever.

Ayers is now an American elementary education theorist and professor at the College of Education at the University of Illinois at Chicago. Bill Ayers and Barack Obama (among MANY others) worked on education reform in the state of Illinois, as both have strong concerns on it, and Ayers is prominent in the field, and Obama is concerned about EDUCATION, and they both lived and worked in Chicago, Illinois.

UNLESS EDUCATION REFORM is considered TERRORISM (which it may very well be, as the current Republican Party seems to HATE education and all things related to it...so yeah, two guys (belonging to a larger community of concerned individuals in the same region of Illinois in which they live) working on education reform, I can see how that would reek TERROR to Republicans who want to cut all programs and instead send the money over to other countries....yeah, sounds horrible...education reform...Ayers and Obama in Illinois meeting several times with the goal of working towards things Education-related in their community. I can certainly see why EDUCATION REFORM would scare the living daylights out of Republicans.

We wouldn't want American schools to be reformed or improved upon by any means. The better solution is to IGNORE education, and send more money to Iraq and maybe Iran or any other countries and what we feel THEY need instead of what WE need.

Personally, I would like to see a potential President who has had experience with EDUCATION reform, its needs and challenges. It is one of MANY ignored things in the States that seriously needs to be examined.
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