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IncognitoHFX
Joined: 06 May 2007
Location: Yeongtong, Suwon
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 Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 9:01 pm Post subject: Wonderland wants airfare reimbursement at 9 months |
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My friend (who works at a Wonderland) is thinking about going back to Canada very soon to tend to a pregnant wife. She was here until about a month ago when her newly discovered pregnancy forced her to return home.
He's about eight months into his contract now, and his contract states that if he resigns before the nine month mark he'll have to pay for half his original flight over and half his original recruiting fee. While he could wait it out he'd rather not as he needs to be there for his wife.
That being said, is this legal? Charging for a plane ticket after the sixth month? I know most hagwon contracts don't require money to be paid towards the plane ticket if the employee leaves after six months.
Or are airplane fares completely frivolous in the hagwon business? |
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poet13
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't know what the law says, but if he agreed to it contractually, and it's not AGAINST the law, then he's pretty much obliged... |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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| And that's why people like him should just pull a runner. |
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Ramen
Joined: 15 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
| And that's why people like him should just pull a runner. |
Yeah, get paid and run. |
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TheChickenLover
Joined: 17 Dec 2007
Location: The Chicken Coop
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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After all the warnings. YEARS of problems & even publications about the horrific conditions of Wonderland....people still work there. 
I have no sympathy for your friend (who is a complete idiot).
Anyone who puts themselves in that situation after ignoring all the warning signs deserves no help.
Chicken |
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IncognitoHFX
Joined: 06 May 2007
Location: Yeongtong, Suwon
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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| TheChickenLover wrote: |
After all the warnings. YEARS of problems & even publications about the horrific conditions of Wonderland....people still work there.
I have no sympathy for your friend (who is a complete idiot).
Anyone who puts themselves in that situation after ignoring all the warning signs deserves no help.
Chicken |
If it's any consolation, his Wonderland appears to be pretty good. Aside from that clause in the contract I don't think he's had any real problems there. |
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marlow
Joined: 06 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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It sounds insensitive, but unless she's without family, I'd consider doing the year. Then he can get return airfare and severance. If I were a wife I'd appreciate an extra $3000, not to mention salary for four months, over my husband's face any day.
Of course, you didn't ask that, so sorry for the advice.  I think if he signed it, it's legit. However, I'd be curious what sponsorship law with the visa says. |
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Ilsanman
Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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Being there for my child's birth is worth a lot more than $3000.
A runner sounds like the best idea. |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 10:43 pm Post subject: Re: Wonderland wants airfare reimbursement at 9 months |
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| IncognitoHFX wrote: |
| That being said, is this legal? |
The clause doesn't break any laws, and the contract was signed making it binding.
Choices include:
1) pay the fare and recruiter fee as signed, then leave
2) wait 9 months, then leave
3) wait for pay day and run |
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yingwenlaoshi
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Meanwhile, he probably doesn't even know how much the recruiter's fee was. Before signing a contract, you should have proof of receipt for such a penalty clause so to know the amount. But don't sign such a rag in the first place, I guess. That being said, hindsight's 20/20... |
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marlow
Joined: 06 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Ilsanman wrote: |
Being there for my child's birth is worth a lot more than $3000.
A runner sounds like the best idea. |
He said it was a one month ago newly discovered pregnancy. So she's six months maximum? In any event he can finish the next month to go up to the nine month mark.
A runner would be good, especially if he held onto a return ticket. |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 12:33 am Post subject: |
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| yingwenlaoshi wrote: |
| Before signing a contract, you should have proof of receipt for such a penalty clause so to know the amount. |
It is a reimbursement clause. It's not a penalty clause. A penalty clauses (which ARE illegal) would be something like if you miss a class without prior notice, you will have 50,000 deducted from your salary (they would be entitled to not pay you for that hour since you didn't work it, but to deduct MORE than the hourly rate would be a penalty, and hence not allowed). |
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Teelo
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Wellington, NZ
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| Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 12:38 am Post subject: |
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| Heh, when wonderland head office emailed me asking why I suddenly changed my mind about working there, I came this close || to just replying with a link to a wonderland thread on this forum. |
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joshuahirtle27
Joined: 23 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 12:42 am Post subject: |
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| IncognitoHFX wrote: |
| TheChickenLover wrote: |
After all the warnings. YEARS of problems & even publications about the horrific conditions of Wonderland....people still work there.
I have no sympathy for your friend (who is a complete idiot).
Anyone who puts themselves in that situation after ignoring all the warning signs deserves no help.
Chicken |
If it's any consolation, his Wonderland appears to be pretty good. Aside from that clause in the contract I don't think he's had any real problems there. |
Nope no problems. The worst thing about my WL is that the food is terrible.
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yingwenlaoshi
PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 10:53 pm Post subject:
Meanwhile, he probably doesn't even know how much the recruiter's fee was. Before signing a contract, you should have proof of receipt for such a penalty clause so to know the amount. But don't sign such a rag in the first place, I guess. That being said, hindsight's 20/20... |
I don't think it would be that much and I'd have to pay half not the full amount..
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Young FRANKenstein
PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 10:43 pm Post subject: Re: Wonderland wants airfare reimbursement at 9 months
IncognitoHFX wrote:
That being said, is this legal?
The clause doesn't break any laws, and the contract was signed making it binding.
Choices include:
1) pay the fare and recruiter fee as signed, then leave
2) wait 9 months, then leave
3) wait for pay day and run |
I like those choices. They aren't insulting  or stupid.
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marlow
PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 10:16 pm Post subject:
It sounds insensitive, but unless she's without family, I'd consider doing the year. Then he can get return airfare and severance. If I were a wife I'd appreciate an extra $3000, not to mention salary for four months, over my husband's face any day. |
Well I know I'd feel better with the extra 3-4G's in my pocket while I'm on the plane home. I want it so I can take care of my baby. My wife can draw EI in Canada and there are friends and family there too. The thing is... I miss her and I want to meet my baby. |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 12:48 am Post subject: |
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Young FRANKenstein
The clause doesn't break any laws, and the contract was signed making it binding.
Choices include:
1) pay the fare and recruiter fee as signed, then leave
2) wait 9 months, then leave
3) wait for pay day and run |
I like those choices. They aren't insulting or stupid. |
Sorry. I don't know what came over me. Next time I'll try harder to be rude and unhelpful and live up to the the rep here.  |
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